Circular Trend-Waves
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thread: Circular Trend-Waves

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    Circular Trend-Waves

    Hi Traders,

    First of all I wish to say this thread is nothing scientific, it is going to be just the results of my studies with the help of some geometric understanding on this forum.

    1- Trade What You Watch - Practically Naked Trading - https://www.cliqforex.com/general-fo...ty-trades.html

    two - Practically Naked (Simple Trades) - https://www.cliqforex.com/trading-sy...s-retreat.html

    3- Fibonacci Trading using - https://www.cliqforex.com/trading-sy...ing-style.html

    4- James16 Chart Thread - https://www.cliqforex.com/bitcoin-cr...in-prices.html

    5- Circular Trendlines - https://www.cliqforex.com/trading-sy...ose-forex.html - ( I have been his silent follower for a long time )

    6- Trading Major Lines - https://www.cliqforex.com/forex-brok...iscussion.html

    7- Andrews Pitchfork (Median Line) - https://www.cliqforex.com/trading-sy...waterfall.html

    I will use each the geometric stuff (MT4) in order to exchange, but I won't tell every detail, I really need the followers (in case they exist) to spend some effort too. The market is like a living beast and have a rhytm. The most shocking part is that this beast has liquidic behavious. And the element which shapes the trends and the price movement is the momentum which is also not toootally sound. We could examplify the situation like this:

    The price is similar to the surface of the sea, and the momentum would be the wind which generates waves on the surface of the sea. If the general direction of the wind is to the north, then the waves onto the surface of the sea moves to the north too. However, it shud be considered that there'll also be little winds (local) on the way to the north that will interrupt the general direction of this wind.So we could say that the general momentum generates the general tendency, the inner momentums create the inner waves.

    Like Elliot discovered human plogy could be formulized, and it has an algorithm. But we always consider the process in our brains will be undefinable. We can be certain we are wrong, the founder created in inner mathematical algorithm even in our plogical side.The largest discoverey concerning the relation between plogy and the mathematical measurements is the golden number: 1,618!!! Its the general ration between the waves in this market.

    However there is something in the understanding of this market. It is not only the rice itself. This market is something two or three dimensional [ Human plogy (which also generates the momentum and the volume) and the price itself (the equilibrium of demand and supply )]... the most important thing among these dimensions is the individual plogy that induces the majority of the things in this market. So wat we shud do is to decode the algorithm of their individual plogy and the route passes through the golden amount 1,618!!!

    I could envision most of u stating that the F#304;BO instrument does not work all the time, yes its a fact! However, the fibo instrument on the MT4 platforms is something horizantal which believes market to include only the price, and it rejects the existence of different dimensions like time and momentum. Thats why I will use circles rather than horizantal tools.This doesnt mean I firmly deny the horizantal tools, but honestly its hard to repay the circles at first sight. And you will be amazed when u see the sharp ratio between the waves. . .its mostly exact 1,618 when the pair is perfect! Ofcourse each the pairs do not behave in an ideal way, thats why we shud accept the existnce of some deviation.

    Great researches have discovered that we have a code of 1,618 in our brains that we aren't aware the majority of the time. The things that we call as ideal at first sight have the 1,618 ratio. The intriguing point is that we do not measure them when we view, Its just a code in our braibns which automatically make us believe that its ideal so long as the goal object has that ratio. The charge cards, the TV screens. . .arent they cute to the majority of us, why do we believe so? Do you believe its just a coincidence? No its not, the designers of such attractive things know we have that 1,618 code in our brains, and yes, charge cards are appealing to the majority of us!!!

    Anyhow, when lots of investors examine the charts at precisely the same time, their plogy functions with the nearly same algorithm. The common number in these algorithms is the golden ratio and our brains (when we consider the sum of their brains looking at the charts) create waves for this ratio!!!

    I will reveal only one case for today, and will contibnue later. . .the next thing will be on the deviations. .
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    (This initial post will be edited through time)

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    ... however I won't tell every detail, so I want the followers (in case they exist) to devote some effort also.
    Sorry I won't tell every detail as I said in the preceding post. All these are the results of my studies that took too much time. It is really simple on MT4, all you have to do is to check around a bit.

    Regards. .

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    The Deviation of the Perfectness

    As I told in the first article the market isnt ideal from time to time, also It doesnt match the exact ratio of 1,618. EURUSD daily chart in the first post is near perfectness, but not entirely perfect. Exactly like the animals in this universe the ratio is obviously sometthing near the golden ratio.

    But we are trading real money in this market and we want sharp goals in this enterprise. Starting from this oint it will be essential to ask help from the supports and resistences previously. Make certain the brains of these investors look at exactly the exact same chart will draw people circles without letting them know wat they are thinking, and instictually they will SELL or BUY at the critical circular zones. The trend always starts from a particular point [x,y] and that match has a mortal imortance in circular egy. Bear in mind, we pretend that the price is similar to water, and the waves are similar to the waves on the surface of the water when u drop a rock... like that:


    What I tell is that the ratio between those circles are 1,618 if its ideal! And the price moves exactly like that!!! The trend starts from a particular point (x,y) as well as the trends esteem the waves. I ll reveal one EURUSD example to make it more clear. Make sure It will make it much easier for u to make predictions in the long run. Because what we are trying to do would be to find out what the algorithm of our brains is...


    The images above are how our brains see the charts (part of my concept ), those circles don't give us goals, but at least help us to discover the reversals. For ex EURUSD pair goals another circle in the picture (marked with green dot), and as soon as it tocuhes that ring we'll be aware that the wave is ring,and also a new bearish trend will start targeting the outar wall of the interior circle. In the event that ring is broken then another circle will be the target. Quite simply these circles can tell us exactly the reversals or the starts of the trends. . .but doesnt provide much info about the completion date of this trend. There are some tricks even for date forecast, but its another step

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    XAUUSD... Gold is one of the pairs which largely respect the golden ratio, but it's also essential to take the existence of sharp goal desire in us, so we need to include the deviation in our calculations or egies. As noticed in the icture the price really respects the circular trend-waves, and also the price is right above a really strong service today. The probable targets of this price are indied on the film assuming that:

    [ The length of the former swing = The length of the upcoming swing ]
    Its the subject on which I am studying at the moment, but even the durations of the swings appear to have the golden ration among themselves.But #305; do not have sufficient clues to prove it to now


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    EURUSD... Here is the very first prognosis for EURUSD Daily chart and I just wanted to indie the possible goals in the future. The intersection of these tools have a great potential to be attained. The pair was consolidating right over the channel line for a while and it is just preparing the acceptable time price to get the very best bounce up so it can visit the green energy stage that's around 1,3430-3450s. However, in the event a retracement happens then the retracement is supposed to be stopped by the round support at 1,2870-2890s. That which we shud do is just to set our pending orders and wait for the price to respond...


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    A [ Date Price ] prediction: 2-6 January - 1,3415 - 1,3435

    The three geometric tools intersect at precisely the exact same point, therefore we can state that its an energy stage and will pull in the price against itself if it is a magnet. So that the price will probably touch that amount onto the 2nd-6th of January 2013...


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    UKOil... The price is currently moving between two trendlines, but in precisely the exact same time it's captured inside a circular route. If the price moves in a regular manner then it shud touch the bottom trendline.Anyway. . .its important to SELL UKOil until it reaches the trendline, and it is going to really give lots of profit. Lets see wat will happen !!


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    GBPUSD... As seen from the picture that the price is again the servant of circular stability and is about to break a round support at the moment. This broken circular support will direct us to 300-400 pips profit. Well, you may be asking wat the advantage of employing the circles is whereas individuals can do the same (maybe better) entry by using horizantal tools. The answer is: the circles make us comprehend the basic route of this price and it makes us see the price obeys the angles along with the geometry. This being recognizable to the market mechanics makes our uncertain plogy turn out to be a confident and comfortable and specific plogy. The better we know the mechanics of the price (how human plogy functions in ways ) the greater we trade and the greater we detect the goals. Ofcourse we need other resources to discover the target, but circles should nevertheless be involved to make ourselves feel that the market is comfortable rather than tootally wild!!

    In this scenario the bearish trend will be verified with the break of the green round support along with also the fan support will be the next goal of this price.We shud adjust out TP at 1,5660-1,5700 considering the price may not reach the exact target. We all will need to do would be to await the outcome...


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    GBPUSD... As seen in the picture the price is again the slave of circular stability and is about to break a circular assistance right now. We will be led by this broken circular assistance to 300-400 pips profit. Well, you might be asking wat the advantage of using the circles is whereas individuals can do exactly the same (possibly better) entrance by using horizantal tools. The answer is: the circles allow us understand the simple path of this price and it makes us see the price obeys the angles and the geometry. This being recognizable to the market mechanisms...
    enjoying your thread,interestingly you have 15660 as a low stage,my longer term level using a calculation from pi is 15635 not so far apart.15741 being the degree above also calculated exactly the same way.my high level was 16389.

    I firmly believe in circular motion of price,such as you im still amiss with durations.

    Looking forward to studying more

    merry xmas

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    loving your thread,interestingly you've got 15660 as a very low stage,my longer duration level employing a calculation from pi is 15635 not so far apart.15741 being the amount above additionally calculated the exact same way.my high-level was 16389.

    I firmly believe in circular motion of price,like you im still amiss with durations.

    Looking forward to studying more

    merry xmas
    Hi ;

    First of all I am a muslim we don't have christmas, but its really polite for one to want a happy christmas for me, trhank you! And I want the exact same happy christmas for you also...

    I've watched for quite a while, there are a few parts I don't agree with him, but that I feel really thankful to him that he gave me the idea that this market could be quantified. And also the threads that I said in the first post (about geometry) gave me hope of calling [price moment ]. When I was studying picthforks I met a term called energy points that act as magnets and pull in the price, #305;t was the junction oint of two median lines. What #305; am trying to do is to apply the exact same mindset into the circles, but I'm still at the practice of improving myself, I don't have certain and clear results for now...

    But #305; believe momentum is the crucial data while computing the swing length. Or lets say that the laziness or the excitedness of the price. Those adjectives are human adjectives, however, human is the fundamental factor that shapes the market. Thats why it has the dwelling creature symptoms. This laziness or excitedness of this price (momentum) rejects the validity of horizantal tools. For ex if the price falls from 100 to 0, then if we are using horizantal tools we anticipate the price to reach 100 again. But if the price (human plogy) doesnt have sufficient momentum or excitedness there will come out another human-like speciality: the exhaustedness of the price. If This exhaustedness happens we don't reachh 100 along with the price forms a double top or something like that and changes its leadership back to 0, maybe below 0 As a conclusion, I Believe the formulation shud be based on (about duration):
    The avarage momentum of the past completed swing shud be calculated In the event the on process avarage momentum of this new swing surpasses the previous swing's avarage momentum, we could say That We'll have a new HIGH In the event the on process avarage momentum of this new swing is significantly less than the preceding swing's avarage momentum, then we could say that we wont be able to reach the Preceding HIGH
    For now what I do is to draw both circles and channels on the screen and detect the intersections. However, its also another strong theory that the market doesnt obey any principles, the chaos theory,... I'm confused. . .God bless us

    The mentality behind bands is: When the changes in the momentum impacts the tops and bottoms of this price, so a drawn circle helps to loe the rational modifiions in the momentum as time passes, and it helps to find the possible reversals... well I hope I expressed myself in a clear way. I take notes when I study, a type of journal, and everything is like clouds, nothing accurate yet...I hope oneday I ll reach wat I expect to attain!

    Regards...

    (Thank you for your kindness)

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