Page 30 of 5030 FirstFirst ... 20 28 29 30
Results 291 to 299 of 299

Thread: Forex expert vr smart grid lite develop

  1. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote @traderTero: you have the Line: hedging is the only way to prevent a Martingale ea from crashing. I'd begin coding, if I'd be a coder. There a can martinagle Systems around here incliqforexbut no coder who's going apply the hedge. I don' t exactly why. Probably it is too difficult.... Renko
    Not sure why they do not wish to do it or not try any new ideas but at least today I can see that there's more talk about hedging also on the opposite martingale threads. I have also several times asked them to let adding transactions into the winning side because this would behave as hedging and would be easy to implement. Above I have posted the paychecks sample: As an example if we've market transactions 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4 and 0.5 and the Dollar 1.5,

    Let us presume that in the same time we would have been opening buy transactions as follows: 0.1, 0.1, 0.1, 0.1, and 0.1 with a 20 pips space from every other beginning 20 pips in addition to the first sell trade, let us also presume that we've the same for the market trades and the Dollar of 1.5 lots have been opened 20 pips from the previous sell. So at that point we have a reduction from the market trades $120 $200 $240 $160 $100=-$820 and a profit of $100 $80 $60 $40 $20= $300 from the 0.1 buy transactions.

    Now let us see what happens with all these 3 options, 1. The price continues to move up 200 pips 2. The price moves back 120 pips 3. The price moves down 200 pips.

    1. We start a similar grid since the first one and in 120 pips we've yet another $820 reduction from market transactions and another hedge of 1.5 lots, along with that we would have started third grid and there we would have market transactions 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 and 0.4 open. Loss from them -$100 160 180 80=$520, profit from buy trades with a entire movement of 300 pips =
    $300 280 260 240 220 200 180 160 140 120 100 80 60 40 20=$2400 and total declines $2160. Here we would have obtained the profit and shut all transactions with Equity TP.

    2. We would shut the buy trades in BE and maintain reduction of $820 and waiting for a break out of the 100 pips range.

    3. We would have started to start martingale buy trades and 0.1 lot market transactions into the management. Our loss would be probably around $1300 and in the event the price would proceed another 100 pips, we would shut in profit.

    I'm not asserting that this type of system is ideal and it may have some disadvantages but at least in contrast to a normal martingale program, our dd would have been very modest whereas with all the martingale we would have probably lost all of our funds. Also, please notice that that my numbers above might not be totally accurate but using hedging and momentum together can be very productive.

    One could also assert that why not open smaller lots rather than allowing the ea open more transactions into the management. This is a great argument if you move strictly based on opening the transactions on fixed levels but if you use price action or a indior to start transactions then it'd be better to use momentum because the number of winning trades should be increasing compared to the trades.

  2. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote You might want to implement a basket TP or Equity TP and close all trades when profit target has been hit. Also, the hedging trades must have it's very own multiplier as 3x the sum of the initial trades could be too much. It might be sufficient to just hedge them or just do 2x. The Dollar trades must have a trailing stop in place in the event the markets return to the initial direction. BE could also get the job done. In any case, hedging is the only method to protect against a martingale ea from crashing. Limiting the number of trades to one management is also usually...
    @traderTero: you got the Point: hedging is the only method to protect against a Martingale ea from crashing. If I'd be a coder I'd start coding.

    There a may martinagle Systems around here incliqforexbut no coder who is going implement the hedge. I don' t why. Probably it is too difficult....
    renko

  3. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Awesome ideas, one ideas to include: 1) In the example we're buying, after 5 orders we have a position in the opposite direction for the hedge. Straight forward. However, the 5 orders should be x allowing us to change it and when to start it. Example The 1st GRID is 7 orders, when the 8th order is triggered we then choose a SELL order that absorbs x (in my case lets usage 3). So we're currently on the 8th order that's hedging the first 3 orders. This could be considered a freeze in the operation. Then Orders 4,5,6, and 7 appear for the TP. This reduces...
    Good thought.

    We need flexibility in the ea to correct as many settings as you can in order to maximize it.

    It might be useful to utilize the hedge profits to close the losing trades utilizing partial close, such as if we have sell trades 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4 and 0.5 and the hedge 1.5, when the profit of the hedge reaches the reduction of the 0.1 sell, we close the 0.1 sell and partly close the buy hedge to 1.4 and so on.

  4. #294
    Wonderful ideas, one suggestions to add:

    1) In the example we are buying, after 5 orders we all take a position in the opposite direction for the Dollar. Straight forward. However, the 5 orders should be x letting us change it and when to start it. Instance

    The 1st GRID is 7 orders, once the 8th order is activated we then take a SELL order that absorbs x (in my case permits use 3). So we are currently on the 8th order which is hedging the first 3 orders. This would be considered a freeze in the operation. Then Orders 4,5,6, and 7 appear for the TP. This reduces the drawdown on the account, and then once 4,5,6 and 7 take the TP, everything shuts.

  5. #295
    Can there be some details on just what the EA does? Entries? Exits?

  6. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote You might want to employ a basket TP or Equity TP and close all trades when profit target was hit. Also, the hedging trades must have it's very own multiplier as 3x the amount of the first trades could be too much. It might be sufficient to just hedge them just do 2x. The Dollar trades must have a trailing stop in place in case the markets turn back to the initial direction. BE could also work. In any case, hedging is the only method to prevent a martingale ea from crashing. Limiting the number of trades to one direction is also generally...
    However, the image alternative buy and market is slightly different to lot multiplier round hedging. Check the image published by Voldemar, it seems interesting, we need to assess how it works in fashion and ranging markets.

  7. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote He appears to use Google translate from English to Russian to understand what was written. Suggestion he is creating is: (am copying and pasting the material). In the picture above, I have circled the largest problem for us today at the downtrend. The transactions that are furthest away from the current market price. All these are causing the biggest problem as they are so many pips away in the market and most hard to regain. These transactions are those we have to target. You may think that the newest martingale transactions would be the largest problem because...
    You may want to employ a basket TP or Advance TP and close all transactions when profit target was hit. Also, the hedging transactions should have it's very own multiplier as 3x the amount of the initial trades might be too much. It may be enough to simply hedge them simply do 2x.

    The Dollar transactions should have a trailing stop in place in the event the markets return to the initial direction. BE could get the job done.

    In any case, hedging is the only method to prevent a martingale ea from crashing. Limiting the amount of transactions to a single management can be usually a fantastic method to lower dd. Having the ea also add to to the profitable side can be sometimes used but the multiplier needs to be then very close to 1.

  8. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote What is that for an idea ? picture alternative buy and sell ?
    I believe if we utilize target pips or $ amount to shut all those grid orders alternating.

    Dont you believe we can capture properly pips.

  9. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quote How's that for an idea ? picture alternative buy and sell ?
    Sounds fine. We can try and test it. Lets see how it manages.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
This website uses cookies
We use cookies to store session information to facilitate remembering your login information, to allow you to save website preferences, to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners. Read more.