Never Go Against the Trend?
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thread: Never Go Against the Trend?

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    Junior Member Dextroxs's Avatar
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    Never Go Against the Trend?

    Does this imply that the odds is that I will lose money going against the trend? If that is true is my expected value is positive if I go with the trend every trade I make? Can you get my point? If my expected value is negative should I go against the trend, it is positive if I go with this!
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    it doesn't matter if you go with the trend. There are not any trends. All transactions are 50/50 chance of profit!

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    Does this imply that the probability is that I will lose money going against the trend? If that is accurate is that my expected value is positive if I go with the fad every trade I make? Can you get my point? If my expected value is negative should I go against the trend, it is positive if I go with this! OR It does not matter if you go with the trend. There are not any trends. All transactions are 50/50 possibility of profit!
    Trading with reversal pattern is obviously hard, so change trading setups are not suitable for the new traders since the likelihood is too low. On the flip side, more than 70% instances, market follow it's previous trend, that is way; trading based on the market tendency is significantly dependable than change trading.

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    Hello hay! I am not talking about entering a trade in the trend direction following retracement but about trading the retracement; which is a focus of this thread.

    KP

    quote //-- hello keen.... And it is those retracements that lots of trend traders extended for.... They can create the most significant pip gains.... Or losses.... In the instance of shorting which is your preference, once the downtrend reverses, when a person was to have tracking market stops riding the psar, bband lines or such a indior, once the reversal ended and downtrend resumed your trailing sellstops would return in at the apparently ideal time.... Little waves on large waves...h

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    Any fad experiences some retracement on the way. Trading the retracement is moving against the trend but it can be achieved, e.g. by scalping. You get in and you do not linger in the trade. Although this isn't my cup of tea. Trade safe and prosper. KP
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    hello excited.... And it's those retracements that many fad traders extended for.... They can produce the most significant pip profits.... Or losses....

    In the event of shorting which is your preference, when the downtrend reverses, if a person was to have trailing sell stops riding the psar, bband lines or such a indior, when the reversal ended and downtrend resumed your trailing sellstops would return in at the seemingly perfect time....

    Small waves on big waves...h

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    Any fad experiences some retracement along the way. Trading that the retracement is going against the trend but it can be achieved, e.g. by scalping. You get in and you don't linger at the trade. Although this isn't my cup of tea.

    Trade safe and prosper.

    KP

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    quote Cool, to begin that young. Thanks for reply.
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    cooler yet is they do what many say can't be done...h
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    Junior Member piliolo's Avatar
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    Trading is relative, most likely one of the wonderful courses you can learn. Trend is relative to how you define/quantify it whether it be architecture, MAs, TLs, HH/HL etc.. Keep in mindyour trend might just be the pullback of a greater trend and that greater trend might just be a pullback in the greater greater trend. See what I mean. So buyiny/selling tops and bottoms is frequently just buying/selling deep pullbacks that you are not aware of.
    Properly stated partner...

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    Junior Member danielasamir's Avatar
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    quote //-- hello.... Grand girl.... No she does not... she's 8.... Her 500$ account is up nearly 400$ currently and the 1000$ account is around 500.... I believe her win/loss ratio is just under 95 on the two accounts.... Both accounts will double before the month is out.... Her win/loss ratio should remain above 80.... They have 4 more newer accounts.... All accounts combined, there should be almost 600 trades each month averaging 3$ per transaction.... Or 1800 a month.... Up their over 2000 combined today.... The private ea I was speaking...
    Cool, to start that young.

    Thank you for reply.

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    quoteRespectfully disagree with both you and HiddenGap; unless some physical prejudice (unbalanced wheel, the manner croupier releases the ball, etc) exists, all spins are separate, random events, and past streaks are predictively meaningless; the house edge always remains 2/38 (5.26%) for wheels with both 0 and 00, or 1/37 (2.70%) for wheels with only 0, regardless of what egy you'll use. That is why the casino will always win eventually (more here)....
    Interesting conversation. Completely agree, I dropped the last time that I sat down and performed until the house had an edge. Therefore the very best egy is to perform only until you win!

    Okay, so by mathematical benefit, you're referring to this BET SELECTION section of this procedure rather than the true BET amount eg. Martingale, correct?

    I'm not asserting any mathematical benefit or even know how which may work; only indiing a more logical process of BET SELECTION

    like I said before, betting on the 2nd previous number will have you winning when a series come up; that alone will increase your chances over the casino - in the brief run!

    Here's up a spreadsheet to illue that and how it functions. Real spins results can be found, no demand for number generators.

    Column A - Amounts to 1,000,000
    Column B - Actual spin results, 1 million of them
    Column F and E = Table to specify Red or Black according to roulette number
    Column H - Evaluation Runs, 100 spins just
    Column I - Pick first number of this test run, from Col. A
    Column J - The spin results in that beginning number
    Column K - The outcome Color
    Column L - The Shade to bet on after two spins
    Column M - The outcome - Win or shed
    Column N - Start Bank of 100 units, and balance after gambling

    I emphasized the two successive streaks of RED which happened very shortly into this set of numbers, I didn't search for this!

    Now, as mentioned before, and I have found it, human intuition is to begin betting on the opposite because the logic is BLACK must come out!

    But, as you can see, the bets start winning there with this method. Additionally, I have Excel emphasize in green that the maximum bank number in the run of 100

    So, logically, a gambler ought to stop when he up 50 percent of his bank from spin 19 to 21, agree? This is the only mathematics he needs to know

    Over for you


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    Could you please share the very first indior/dashboard?
    Thank you.

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