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  1. #21
    This ´s a normal 240 AUDUSD stop run.
    I researched the apparent ones. . .the quicker the TF, the more frequently it occurs, cause it costs $ to the Big Boys to conduct stops. . .they must move the market a few pips...
    It´s anywhere, the market is infected by a virus....no miracle people loose....take any method, follow by the publication, place your sitting duck stop, PAC MAN eats. . .he read ALL the books long time ago. .
    Of course stop runs is only one symptom of the desease, like people sensibly mentioned here. . .there´s slippage, news, requotes, you name it...
    WELLCOME TO THE FOREX CASINO OF THE NEW CENTURY.

  2. #22
    Quit if identifies, running successfully has two benefits.

    First: you don´t get hit, and have an opportunity to place your stop in a safer place...(right where it occurred ).
    Second: the motions afterwards, tend to be powerful, trigger... guess who's behind it...

    there's a definite advantage in the trap...

    BTW: the easiest way to identify them: just look at the obvious places where retailers would put their stops...
    sweet small sitting studs,enjoying the sunny day. . .unaware of this hunter behind the bush...

  3. #23
    Quit if identifies, running successfully has two benefits.

    First: you don´t get hit, and have an opportunity to place your stop in a safer place...(right where it occurred ).
    Second: the motions afterwards, tend to be powerful, trigger... guess who's behind it...

    there's a definite advantage in the trap...

    BTW: the easiest way to identify them: just look at the obvious places where retailers would put their stops...
    sweet small sitting studs,enjoying the sunny day. . .unaware of this hunter behind the bush...

  4. #24
    Junior Member Castlewhite's Avatar
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    Heres a normal 240 AUDUSD stop conduct. The ones were marked by me. . .the faster the TF, the more often it happens, cause it costs $ for the Big Boys to conduct stops. . .they need to move the market a few pips... Its anywhere, the market is infected by a virus....no wonder people loose....take any method, follow by the book, place your sitting duck prevent, PAC MAN eats. . .he read all of the books. . Of course stop runs is not the only symptom of the desease, like people wisely mentioned here. . .theres slippage, news, requotes, you name it....
    Some are ceased runs. Some are simply accelerations into a fib retracement

    I agree with your premise

  5. #25
    Junior Member Castlewhite's Avatar
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    Heres a normal 240 AUDUSD stop conduct. The ones were marked by me. . .the faster the TF, the more often it happens, cause it costs $ for the Big Boys to conduct stops. . .they need to move the market a few pips... Its anywhere, the market is infected by a virus....no wonder people loose....take any method, follow by the book, place your sitting duck prevent, PAC MAN eats. . .he read all of the books. . Of course stop runs is not the only symptom of the desease, like people wisely mentioned here. . .theres slippage, news, requotes, you name it....
    Some are ceased runs. Some are simply accelerations into a fib retracement

    I agree with your premise

  6. #26
    Junior Member Aitana2231's Avatar
    15
    Liquidity is made by market makers. In fx banks will be the dominant force and they can manage to choose what fee they want to bill you. Fortunately competition between banks have lowered the transaction costs.

    When you buy/sell in the market you extract some liquidity from it. When one million traders(there are approximately 4 million retail traders based on citibank's study ) are later buy at 1.12105(say the volume here's 100million), the initial ones who get there'll find the price(partly ) and others will be slid to the next price. Understand there are other countless traders selling at the exact same time at 1.12105.

    In the case of front run that most of you guys had misunderstood, a HFT firm such as Virtu has no more advantage than you or me. Whether there are for them it would be better liquidity/spreads and reduced commission and that is all. To front run you need the market to go in one way and the market doesn't function like that. Some whales in the united kingdom could be buying 2B and others in tokyo would be selling 2B at the exact same price and at the exact same time distinct HFT companies would attempt to front run it. Some will win, most would lose. There are countless traders and there are whales with trading style and intentions. Virtu most likely have a very wise algorithm which will go up and down all day making hundreds of thousands, maybe hundreds of trades to produce its miniscule profits which constitutes over the time. Risk to reward ratio and figures made them money. They have a very wise trading idea and no it isn't front run all orders since the market go up and down and also with many different market participants with different systems/algos. If it was as simple as front running orders, they wouldn't have an opportunity because someone else will front run Virtu first and Virtu would lose all the time.

    You also must know there are plenty of HFT companies attempting to conquer and front run each other. So, what happens on the market? The market becomes efficient. Some are attempting to buy, some are currently trying to sell. You ought to thank HFT men because with no EURUSD would still possess a 3pips disperse. If it was up to some of the banks they would want to bill you 5pips for 1 lot of EURUSD

    Again know there are countless traders and hundreds of hft companies attempting to make alpha. What I wrote above is simplistic. You should look for fund journals to learn more about the market. Learn more of HFT of this background. I am still studying.

    Understand from as many sources as possible.

  7. #27
    Junior Member Aitana2231's Avatar
    15
    Liquidity is made by market makers. In fx banks will be the dominant force and they can manage to choose what fee they want to bill you. Fortunately competition between banks have lowered the transaction costs.

    When you buy/sell in the market you extract some liquidity from it. When one million traders(there are approximately 4 million retail traders based on citibank's study ) are later buy at 1.12105(say the volume here's 100million), the initial ones who get there'll find the price(partly ) and others will be slid to the next price. Understand there are other countless traders selling at the exact same time at 1.12105.

    In the case of front run that most of you guys had misunderstood, a HFT firm such as Virtu has no more advantage than you or me. Whether there are for them it would be better liquidity/spreads and reduced commission and that is all. To front run you need the market to go in one way and the market doesn't function like that. Some whales in the united kingdom could be buying 2B and others in tokyo would be selling 2B at the exact same price and at the exact same time distinct HFT companies would attempt to front run it. Some will win, most would lose. There are countless traders and there are whales with trading style and intentions. Virtu most likely have a very wise algorithm which will go up and down all day making hundreds of thousands, maybe hundreds of trades to produce its miniscule profits which constitutes over the time. Risk to reward ratio and figures made them money. They have a very wise trading idea and no it isn't front run all orders since the market go up and down and also with many different market participants with different systems/algos. If it was as simple as front running orders, they wouldn't have an opportunity because someone else will front run Virtu first and Virtu would lose all the time.

    You also must know there are plenty of HFT companies attempting to conquer and front run each other. So, what happens on the market? The market becomes efficient. Some are attempting to buy, some are currently trying to sell. You ought to thank HFT men because with no EURUSD would still possess a 3pips disperse. If it was up to some of the banks they would want to bill you 5pips for 1 lot of EURUSD

    Again know there are countless traders and hundreds of hft companies attempting to make alpha. What I wrote above is simplistic. You should look for fund journals to learn more about the market. Learn more of HFT of this background. I am still studying.

    Understand from as many sources as possible.

  8. #28
    Junior Member Castlewhite's Avatar
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    HFT coincided with additional digit to currencies.
    Thanks oanda

    thought I should mention I'm being sarcastic

  9. #29
    Junior Member Castlewhite's Avatar
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    HFT coincided with additional digit to currencies.
    Thanks oanda

    thought I should mention I'm being sarcastic

  10. #30
    Junior Member Castlewhite's Avatar
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    Liquidity is made from market makers. In fx, large banks will be the dominant force and they can manage to choose what fee they want to charge you. Luckily competition between banks have lowered the transaction costs over recent years. When you buy/sell at market you extract a few liquidity from it. When one thousand traders(there are about 4 million retail traders based on citibank's research) are after buy at 1.0001(say the volume here's 100million), the first individuals who get there'll find the price(partly ) and the others will be slipped to the next price....
    Well said...

    cautioned the market is the market.

    Tear Celtics since they want to rip you

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