thread: Order Flow - Achieving the mindset

66950

Oh man, you're so wrong that there, do not judge a dude by a single post is all I could say. Perhaps you're idea of mispricing is at an mathamatical sense... And yes this really is a sport for those computers This is the quant style, I believe mispricings concerning orderflows are more misalloions of liquididity

Algo trading isn't only quant. HFT is about order-flow - algos hunting and front-running order-flow. I understand a few HFT trading egies that are standard, and it's about watching the L2 book, getting out once flow comes in, getting in again when the flows dry up, and playing the range in the mean-time. It's all a positioning against order-flow game. Of course, they just care about mispricings in a at most 4-hour interval.

66950 Carnegie, If I could post a chart...

what hapened here???



from the previous day (feb 21)

0304 GMT [Dow Jones] The EUR/USD is decreasing on increasing risk-aversion following intensifying Libyan political unrest, which can be pushing Chinese and Japanese stocks down,'' says Mitsuru Sahara, a senior foreign exchange trader at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ. There are many things happening in Asia however, the Libyan situation is weighing on the euro that the most. The pair reaches 1.3592 vs 1.3685 earlier; a U.S. bank trader said it might fall into 1.3550, adding its declines will also be influenced by falls in the EUR/JPY. Following the euro struck stop-loss buying orders at Y114.00, profit-taking selling orders kicked in, and also a European bank was particularly active in the transaction, the U.S. bank trader states. The cross reaches 113.10 and may fall into 112.75, he adds.

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Cross/JPY, Cross/CHF, EUR/Crosses, AUD/Crosses, NZD/Crosses under broad based selling. USD, CHF, JPY On safe haven on global risk aversion. AUD/USD stoploss hit under 1.0050 into 1.0041, EUR/USD stops struck under 1.3600 into 1.3587 lows and more drawback seen given issues over Bank of Spain comments that Spain's cajas have EUR100bln worth of possibly problematic loans. And concerns over Libya news- . EUR/USD eye rest of 1.3550, subsequently 1.3500 as funds, hedge funds, Japanese mega-city banks huge sellers of EUR/JPY, AUD/JPY and Europeans, Asians selling EUR/USD as well. Could see supranational that are Asian sovereign, Swiss, East Europeans, Swiss, Asian, Russian, Middle East promoting more EUR/USD, GBP/USD. EUR/USD provides 1.3650, GBP/USD lower at 1.6175-80, eye 1.6050, EUR/CHF hit 1.2897 lows, eye rest of 1.2880 to get 1.2750 on risk aversion, WL

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from following the feb22 close, following the fall from the start of feb 23rd....

EUR/USD is making new strides on the downside, with the market dipping under 1.3525 temporarily as an Asian central bank has only been seen buying at the lows. While we note the substantial those'holders of USD's' have on the market at the time, the risk off motif this morning may prove a little over-powering this time around. You cannot get it all your own way all of the time! There are some decent sized stops only under 1.3500, and it seems as though we'll observe these tripped at some stage.
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later...

Earlier session highs from EUR/USD have been busted, however, the market is still showing no signs of wanting to give up on the upside, with yesterday's 1.3717 high now firmly in sight. Through here it is all eyes 1.3744, also with heightened rate hike expectations, courtesy of the Mersch opinions earlier, price action suggests this will almost surely occur'if' 1.3717 provides way. We see little reason to flip bullish, though a US think-tank has added to the rate hike'enthusiasm' and it seems this has given the place move its'recent' legs. SM

66950

Hey guys,

Sorry I haven't been really busy recently, but I had an uni examination that went straight to hell since I've had other things to think about (ya'll understand what it IZ )

I'm using a new dilemma now. As I'm seeing the world with new glasses, I'm having problems interpreting stuff happening on the planet and I would like to take the time.
You might know what I'm speaking about. . News and fundamentals!

The order flow mindset is not (as I know ) about being a technical trader or a fundamental. It is about being...

I think part of the reason that the Euro is rising is due to the short term interest rates. But if the things start to repay it will start swinging the other way unless the long-term interest rates opposite.
https://www.cliqforex.com/attachment...2037323839.pdf
https://www.cliqforex.com/attachment...1873616949.pdf

66950

Carnegie, If I could place a chart...

exactly what hapened here???

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Simply fading s/r levels is not what's going on here no matter which way you look at it.

Fading daily aid on daily supported uptrend on ECB slide on interest rate hikes... lol sorry couldn't resist but that was happened for real.

In all seriousness, fine chart and way of trading and allow see how high euro can go until the 1.40xx debt crisis cap before debt catastrophe round 3 hit on the table next two weeks starting with Brussels meetings and new Portugal 10 yrs sales trading on highs.

Good luck

66950

Fading daily support on daily confirmed uptrend on ECB slip on interest rate hikes... lol sorry couldn't resist but that has been occurred for real.

In all seriousness, fine chart and way of trading and let see how high euro can go until the 1.40xx debt crisis cap before debt crisis round 3 hit the table next two weeks starting with Brussels encounters and new Portugal 10 yrs sales trading on highs.

Good luck

haha yes a straightforward technical explanation really and nothing wrong with this I think that is a fine means of discovering the entrance and pulling the trigger. This was infact a daily trendline I had in red, and that I left out up the bottom trendline where it has been becoming purchased hard from... and precisely where it bounced from, but let's not neglect the liquidity beneath the 3544 swing reduced where there are stops putting... and let's not forget who's buying and playing the game .

As far as USD, we have the entire QE scenario after a few weak US data a week. The thought is that the ECB will raise rates sooner the FED and the market is pricing that in. We've got NFP this week so I am guessing this week will range up here as many restrict vulnerability.

With tensions in the middle east the wildcard and of course as you mentioned, the eurozone debt crisis still in the backdrop.

I'll be watching how the market reacts to Trichet and Ben through the week, the US information beforehand, and also paying attention to the mid east.

On a negative note, I have been hearing of flows coming OUT of CHF as most are uncomfortable being at these amounts in CHF and also with Goldman releasing buy recommendations on USD/CHF and EUR/CHF.... strange times....


BUT. . Simply fading s/r amounts... I do not think so.

66950I don't use trendlines but that is beyond the point. I agree with you FA perspective and also that it had been trading air below 1.354x. On those who had been buying we can have a very long debate but can assure you that most of retail micro timeframes in FF weren't looking to buy when it happened.

haha yes a simple technical explanation indeed and nothing wrong with this as I think that's a fine way of finding the entry and pulling the trigger. That was infact a daily trendline I had in crimson, and that I left out up the bottom trendline where it's been becoming purchased hard off of... and exactly where it bounced off of, but let's not neglect the liquidity under the 3544 swing reduced where you will find stops putting... and let's not forget who's buying and playing the game here.

So Far as USD, We've Got the entire...

66950

I do not use trendlines but this is beyond the point. I agree with you FA outlook and that it was trading air below 1.354x. On those who was buying we can have a very long discussion but can assure you that most of retail micro timeframes in FF weren't looking to buy if it happened.

Consented...

66950 I believe that euro drop to 1.3550 zone on 22/2/2011 was a cleaning up the market before London open, and also a typical hedge amount procedure as I pointed out in my prior article. Some men have to clean out their positions for market to fold up. Trading this kind of price move isn't hard. (1). Loe the degree. (2). Wait a buy signal. (3). Then enter long.

See my chart. eur-usd, H1.

Is this kind of move order flow behavior or order flow trading or order flow mindset???

Or Is Chinese Great Wall at euro???

66950some people view it as simply fading s/r, some people today view it after the fact and find the pinbar PA, some folks do other shit that knows what they're doin'...

All I know is, I always like to read into the news, capture the key amounts, order flow information, who's behind it, what's happening in the market that would lead to the flows, and what times these specific things happen to get myself greater probability trades and at the money faster.

Orderflow mindset to me is just using your head to determine what will actually make people to consciously buy and market and make the flows to this stuff and how they go about doing this. It may be applied to all time scales.

I don't know...

66950

I feel that euro fall to 1.3550 zone 22/2/2011 was a cleaning up the market before London open, along with a normal hedge amount process as I pointed out in my previous article. Some guys have to clean out their short positions on the market to swing up. Trading this type of price move is not difficult. (1). Loe the level. (2). Wait a buy signal. (3). Quickly get into long.

See my chart. eur-usd, H1.

Can this type of move order flow behavior or order flow trading or order flow mindset???

Or Can Be Chinese Great Wall at euro???

I believed they were stop searching
please share ur understanding of london,as ive been trading london open quite successfully for 3 weeks today
I really would love to find out more from u

my notion is that ahead of london,30 minutes before,for instance we have a downward trend,then london opens the prevent seekers go to the best range of those shorts,knock out their stops and reverse (if theres some fantastic news,they will be following the anticipated direction of the statement )
always trying to prevent hunt us
if theres no major news
the leadership goes the opposite from the tokyo's major leadership that went throughout the afternoon

I dont know if this is the real motive,but it seems close
as I cant find any explanation why it goes this way
if some one of u have a better explanation of the happening please share,im willing to listen


do u believe they always scam,
and proceed for stops?or only soemtimes they proceed together with the hedge
if they scam,woultdnt that produce a balance in price?
Or maybe what ur saying is that the traders before london open and the ones at london open are the very same guys?