thread: Supply and Demand zones NOT in retrospect

I am starting this thread out of fruion together with my inability to execute what I was reading about S/D zones.
It is my understanding that when price returns to a S/D zone it might, in most likelyhood retrace.
To confirm a trade at the direction of this retrace, one would use candle formations or indiors (to a lesser level )
When I watch a few of the charts posted, these amounts appear to be somewhat clear and a trade ought to be easy to implement.
Problem is that in actual life (live) trading, the moves aren't so obvious.
Another issue that I have is with all the explanations given.
They all explain an event that occured, thus, any explanation could be legal. (i.e. price turned down in SUPPLY since there were no longer buyers. Isn't it clear that price turned down since there were no longer buyers?
I will post some charts with literary and zones my anticipation of this
impeding move.

Please see whether the zones are legitimate or not and please reply to this question(s) from the charts.

Thank you

Gabe

I do not wish to beat a dead horse but I still have problems to differentiate between the no trade demand zone marked with number two in gabes post (post 31) along with your drop base rally zone.

Have you ever gone via the chances enhancers for number two? In case you did then you'd be asking a dumb question. You may see that this is not low on the time frame demand curve without taking a look at the time frames. Also look at where distribution is, do you have an easy minimum 2:1 reward risk (your own RR will be different to other people that's for you to decide, possibly seiden was searching for 3:1)?

Do not forget, occasionally even the best levels might have broken simply out of stop searching, and they are frequently the best intraday transactions to become in. Flexibility and expectancy is essential.

Good Post

Markets and Market Logics.. Maybe?


cheers

Yep

have you gone via the odds enhancers for number two? If you did you'd be asking a question. You may see that this is not low on the higher time frame demand curve without even taking a look at the higher time frames. Also look at where supply is, do you have a simple minimum 2:1 reward risk (your RR will be different to other people that's for you to determine, maybe seiden was searching for 3:1)?

Do not forget, sometimes even the top levels might get busted out of stop hunting, and they are frequently the ideal intraday trades to get in. Flexibility...

I am not a part of Sam Seiden's course. So no I do not know the odds enhancer number two. I am following the PIE ribbon and like you mentioned the two designs are more or less distinct. But hey I prefer to ask dumb questions and learn something rather than finishing up.

As Porkpie has explained, always look at greater time frames to determine where we are in the larger picture. E.g. if we are bouncing off a monthly/weekly demand zone the price will likely blast through your intraday supply zone - regardless of how good that amount looks like on a 5 min chart. I always look for major S/D zones on monthly/weekly/daily charts and just trade original pullback (retest) into those.
Example:
SP chart and also the recent rally. Price retraced in the monthly supply zone (previous support) in 1288.50. Produced it 3 ticks over this amount and dropped like a rock. I also look whether this zone was important in the past (multiple bits. .) . These moves tend to be rather predictable if you know what levels to take a look at. Below are charts which should illue this specific case (weekly, daily 1hour). That amount was also 78.6% fib level (see daily chart).

I am not a member of Sam Seiden's course. So no I don't understand the odds enhancer number 2. I am following the PIE thread and like you said the two styles are more or less different. But hey I would rather ask idiotic questions and learn something rather than shutting up.

Https://www.cliqforex.com/general-fo...rs-affect.html post 156

Do not be duped. The OTA futures course for example, doesn't show that much more information from what is revealed at FXstreet. The full odds enhancers are published on other threads on FF. As already mentioned, the main distinction between great levels is that the profitability factor eg low or high on the higher timeframe curve; how do prices leave the level; how do prices arrive at the degree. Do not make this more complied for yourselves. Its basic stuff. Money management is more important. Yet again people focusing too hard on the wrong things...

What is complied within my articles. I don't actually use any indiors in any way. I've followed Sam's principles. All I m saying is to look for R-B-D and D-B-R patterns. What is really complied in thisparticular? . Infact , this is what Sam preaches.

In CME FX futures we can SEE order flow and ascertain WHERE open interest positions were initiated (cumulative delta volume). Seeing these price levels of buying and selling zones includes a substancial advantage over spot Forex trading. In Forex we do not have all the trading on a fundamental exchange and how a lot of you have access to Forex volumes? ;--RRB-

REAL potential support and resistance comes in zones of held stock (open curiosity - positions still held by large liquidity participants). Where price was previously means nothing if the newly initiated trading action (new open interest) can not be seen through proper order flow monitoring. In spot Forex, all a trader can do is draw horizontal lines from previous key price pivots and then hope those lines mean something when price returns. Hope is a tough foundation to exchange upon imo, and any new tools offering real order flow monitoring in the spot market would be quite nice!

In CME FX futures we could SEE order flow and ascertain WHERE open interest held positions were initiated (cumulative delta volume). Seeing these price levels of buying and selling zones has a substancial advantage over place Forex trading. In Forex we do not have all the trading on a central exchange and just how a lot of you have access to Forex volumes? ;--RRB-

REAL possible support and resistance stems in zones of held stock (open interest - positions still held by big liquidity participants). Where price was in the past means nothing if the newly...

Sorry, but thats just a load of bull.

Sorry, but thats only a load of bull.

Above a week with no answer. I suppose Live is lifeless?

Funny though why did not he pick LiveSteamFutures as a nic? Many letters?