thread: Can Brokers see your MT4 EA/Indicators and Codes?

Z,

The spyware that Sony introduced did not transfer automatic information from the consumer to Sony. Sony was more intelligent than to expose themselves, although not that they could not.

With that said, you are right. . .anything is possible. However, I find it highly improbable that IF the brokers DID introduce themselves to the accountability which:
1) that they might actually use the data in this way that by trading from 1 EA that it does not give an advantage to another EA.
2) they would actually wish to waste time once the theory supporting the company is simple. . .house as many losses as you are able to hedge as numerous favorable positions as you can and sell the rest.

Who said anything regarding copyright info. . .all I stated is it may be reporting back saying that an EA is initiating the orders. . .that's all. .

Incidentally Sony was a trojan. You could use it to do a whole lot more than simply get copyright advice...

Z,

I didn't disagree with everything you've posted...I'm just working with what I believe to be accurate, specifically:
- Sony DIDN'T transfer any copyrighted information. . .of course the trojan could have done that, but the simple fact remainsthey didn't (to my understanding )
- What you are saying is accurate, brokers CAN and DO determine that a trade came from an EA. . .this has been established
- Brokers most likely don't observe the EA code which generated it. . .meaning they do not see the actual EA..they just determine that your order came from an EA
- Brokers PROBABLY will not utilize that information if they could see it since it could only be marginally helpful for them. . .and probably not worth their effort counter-act and to try every EA.
- Whatever is possible. . .but just because it is possible doesn't make conjecture any more honest than it is.

Who said anything regarding copyright info. . .all I said is it may be reporting back saying that an EA is initiating the orders. . .that's all. .

By the way Sony was a trojan. You could use it to do much more than just get copyright info...

Z,

I did not disagree with what you posted...I'm just dealing with what I believe to be accurate, namely:
- Sony DIDN'T transfer any copyrighted information. . .of course the trojan could have achieved that, but the fact remains, they did not (to my knowledge)
- What you are saying is accurate, brokers CAN and DO decide a trade came from an EA. . .this has long been established
- Brokers most likely don't observe the EA code which generated it. . .meaning they do not find the true EA..they just determine your order came from an EA
- Brokers PROBABLY will not use that information even though they could see it since it would only be marginally helpful for them. . .and likely not worth their effort counter-act and to try every single EA.
- Anything is possible. . .but just as it's possible does not make conjecture any more truthful than it is.

Are you arguing with me or somebody else...
I believe I was fairly clear...I never said Sony attempted nor did transfer copyrighted material. Nor did I suggest MT4 would. . .or that brokers would find EA code helpful...

Z,

that I was not arguing with you...I was trying to say that you and I'm on the exact same page, and that I was offering some caution regarding what I was thinking.

The tone sounds argumentative, I'm sure. . .but I promise you, I merely tried to clarify my own position, which will be inline with yours.

Are you arguing with me or someone else...
that I believe I was fairly clear...I never stated Sony tried nor did move copyrighted material. Nor did I imply MT4 would. . .or that brokers would find EA code helpful...

Can they see the experts tab?

Can they view the experts tab?

Type of. Servers do supply a log, so that they could observe all trading action. They can't see Print statements if this is what you're asking for.

Sort of. Servers do supply a log, so that they can observe all trading activity. They cannot see Print statements from the specialists tab if this is what you are asking for.

Thanks

Some specialists print extensive info from the specialists tab, that alone could make sense to someone with the knowledge.

Among the brokers whom I've experimented with, the MT4(5) in the broker either joins to their own in-house server or, joins into an Amazon Web Services IP for cloud computing.

The above connection is needed in order to possess connectivity for placing orders. I'd think this component is valid although this link is via SSL so it's not straightforward to tell what is being communicated.

The component that is questionable for me is, the obnoxiously and nearly-continuous relations from MT4(5) into MetaQuotes. Even a simple act of launching a chart in MT5 will attempt many connections with various subdomains of mql5.com

Of course that is via SSL again, it's not straightforward to tell what is being communicated.

So to your point BurgerKing, I envision the obnoxiously many links to MetaQuotes could be to inform about what charts you are opening, what indicators you are using, how your account is performing, etc., and assuming they like what they view, I imagine it would be simple to leech any substance by the platform directories like experts or indicators if they choose to.

I only know about networking as a hobby so I am hoping other more knowledgable ForexFactory members will look to it and let it be known just what is being communicated between MT4(5) and MetaQuotes; I simply tried looking into it myself and, I can capture the SSL traffic between my MT4(5) and also MetaQuotes servers with no problems. The part I am currently having problems with is currently extracting the general certification, creating the private certification, identifying the encryption and decrypting.

Perhaps there is a simpler way? I will post an update, When I figure it out.

Hi, I am new to Foreign Exchange. I would like to learn from you all, if I place an order (market order, pending order) with X lots, then altering the SL/TP, trailing stop, etc.. Lets saythe order has been changed after 1 minute from our opening order time. I am sure our broker can see all of that. But if someone out there may sniff to our community, what can he/she see (here I mean the BAD guy)? Can he/she view all, such as how big is that our order (lots)? And what's the effect / danger of this? I hear this poor guy at the conclusion can break into your room, and takes all of your hardware away...?? I am new in this field, so any information is welcome (particularly how to solve this). Thank you very much in advance.