5% per day is achievable

[Picazom]

A debate was that was saying 5 percent per day gain day trading is not heard of. It could be even and possible . You need to locate a predictable market on basis of analysis. If you know a market personality, then it would be easy to exchange it and earn more than 5 percent.
Do you agree?

[Lapice]

92689I was just wondering how would you calculate trading a certian percent of your account. Example how would you calculate trading 1 percent of a 300 balance account. Thanks for any help in advance

[Bhbberni]

92689
I was just wondering how would you calculate trading a certian percent of your account. Example would you calculate trading 1% of a 300 balance account. Thanks in advance for any help 1% of $300 = 1 percent /100 x $300 = 0.01 x $300 = 3

Simon

[Antiupe]

92689
Franz,

Hogwash.. .show me the money that is consistent.
Michael B.
Yep,
I'll take consistent money OR consistent pips daily, week, month,... Almost every trading book I've read says not to focus on how much money but on how many consistent pips you profit.

[Picazom]

92689Franz,

Hogwash.. .show me the money that is consistent. The phrase was highlighted by me in red. Franz, some days you lose, and that cuts into your average. If it had been so easy, then why do most traders fail in Forex? Every new trader who thinks he is sensible has strategy trading in the very same, conventional manner and a vision, you do not want to be this statistic Franz. . .do you?

Michael B.


To react to you Michael and others, in sense of 5 percent per day is attainable and I am learning the Forex, but I've been doing it in SP 500 futures for more than a year. Everything has to do about the way you approach the market with all the capial you're beginning. You have to get a system that runs accurate about 70-80percent per day when you're stoped outside, you can recover. I do it daily and in front of over 200 individuals. A few of the keys are never use more than 50% of your funds. 2nd begin with 20% of your finance and keep making money off of it and if you want to stretch your discontinue a little then bring out the other 20% to average down, and then your target becomes more closer to you if trade moves your way. Simply stop outside if the trade fails to go your way and choose 2 other trades that will make it back following your trade. You need a system that is fantastic. Again if you would like to see it live, send me a PM and I let you know how.
Franz

[sarai]

92689Think about a number of the greatest peforming funds on the planet. The Soros', the Buffet's, the Victor Niederhoffers (equally in his previous life and his new life), the Renaissance Capitals etc etc.. Even the very best of the best bringing home not much more than 35 percent pa on average, unless they are hiding something. If we intend on staying in the sport over the long-term, this should tell us something.

My only real caveat is here is finance size. Buffet and many others have noticed that smaller players can better exploit opportunities without running up against limitations, and so may be able to enjoy a greater rate of return on their capital. I understand there are a few out there (Chaffcombe for one) who are currently doing amazingly well.

: )

[Rambokavo1]

92689
It's not my design Franz, but thanks for the deal. I would never never use anywhere near 50% of my funds, even with stops...

Michael B. Indeed!

A decade from now, you and I, along with others with the exact same attitude will still be here trading.

[Verotrixxo]

92689Yes...I want to create 5 percent per day. Please sign me up for your methodology. I realize that the miniscule costs will be coated by the massive profit potential of an amazing system.

I will PM you with an email and contact number.

This is going to be the greatest, and just, x-mas gift my ex has recieved from me.

Happy Holidays!!

[raqwl.deji]

92689
How'd you have to be so smart Merlin? Was it out of hanging around guys like me? LOL! You know it man

[Gabirel2]

92689Merlin went into a College

[oxghelen123]

92689
Think about a number of the best peforming funds on the planet. The Soros', the Buffet's, the Victor Niederhoffers (both in his old life and his new lifestyle ), the Renaissance Capitals etc etc.. the best of the best bringing home not pa typically, unless they are hiding something. If we intend on staying in the sport within the long term, this should tell us something.

My only caveat is here is finance dimensions. Buffet and others have noticed that smaller players can exploit opportunities without running up against constraints, and so may have the ability to enjoy a better rate of return. I know there are several out there (Chaffcombe for one) who are currently doing amazingly well.

: ) I concur 100%. However, you know that this 5 day thing is nuts when you have a look at the effect of this a goal. 5 days there is at 5 percent / day per wekk 1300. Who is Franz kidding? Is this possible? Sure, with insane levels of risk that happen to operate a few times but I am pretty sure you will not live to see several more trading days with that kind of risk.

[Picazom]

92689
I agree 100%. But you know for certain that this 5%/day thing is nuts when you have a look at the annual result of this a goal. 5 days there is at 5 percent / day a wekk 1300. Who's Franz kidding? Is this possible? Sure, with levels of risk that happen to operate a few times but I'm fairly certain you won't live to see with that kind of risk.

One thing that you miss is that there are folks like me about and it's hard to feel that we do get 5 percent per day. A hint is always to any kind of ability that make you a master. If majority knows it then the equilibrium of 90 percent eliminate money and 10% earn money is going to be shaken. It is in your mind the best way to see that the success in this business. 1300 end figure in my novel but that I go along with that. I am going to bring your focus to next issue of Traders World magazine article on yours truly and the journalist also was watch the 5 percent achievement several random times and how it can be done, but remember this is the sport of strong minds. It there was no way back, took me 10 years to understand this part again.

[oxghelen123]

92689
Something you all miss is that there are people like me around and it is difficult to feel that we do get 5% per day. There's always a trick to any kind of ability which make you a master. If majority knows it afterward the equilibrium of 90% lose cash and 10% earn money will be shaken. It is in your mind to see the success in this business. 1300% low end figure in my novel but I go along with that. I will bring your attention to next issue of Traders World magazine article on yours truly and the journalist also was witness the 5% accomplishment several random days and how it can be done, but remember that this is the sport of powerful minds. It took me 10 years to know this last part, and there was no way back. Well Franz, all the more power to you if you can truly attain this. I don't think it and nothing you say short of sharing the precise method will convince people. I truly think the trick to mastering this craft is within you and your ability to stay educated and not some mysterious way of achieving those returns. And I promise you the 10% of individuals that make money aren't those who make such ridiculous efforts.

However, like I said, all the more power to you if you really pull it off.

[jupkes]

92689I see my profit goals differently, never in percent

On emini Russell all I want is 2 points per day or more, 20 ticks. Two points is only $200 on a single contract. Oh dear!

At 10 points each week, one contract, that is $1000. Oh dear!

But state you gradually scale your contract numbers, to state 99 contracts, only taking 10 points from the Russell per week, that is $99,000. OH CHRIST!

Work your leverage up, be greedy concerning the points/pips you choose and allow a sizable account do the work for you.

It's those early days of building up the account that will make or break you. (though charging in with alot of cash and no experience will immediately direct you to the same starting position as most of us who need to work up from little).

Forget %.

[sarai]

92689
Something that you all miss is that there are people like me around and it is difficult to believe that we do get 5% every day. A hint is always to any sort of ability that make you a master. If majority knows it then the equilibrium of 90 percent eliminate money and 10% make money will be shaken. It is in your mind to see the success in this business. 1300 end figure in my book but that I go along with this. I am going to attract your attention to next dilemma of Traders World magazine article on yours truly and the journalist also was watch the 5% accomplishment several random times and how it can be done, but remember this is the game of powerful minds. It took me 10 years to understand this last part, and there was no way back. My good guy, I don't doubt your honesty but I have never seen anything. If you're able to produce these kinds of returns, cease posting on this web-site I say. Set a hedge fund up immediately and watch the money roll in. With such returns you can charge 40% of profits instead of the usual 20%. If you're consistent, the surplus liquidity in this world will have a new home: your fund. You will become one of the investors in life.

Wishing you all the best,

Abobtrader, a trader who would be satisfied with a super-normal 20-30percent a year.

[Gduard]

92689
IMHO, 5% per day is far too much. I have a yearly, quarterly, semi-annual and monthly percentage goals. Tell you what, my MONTHLY target is 5%, and I am wondering just how I am going to achieve this target with the least possible risk, that's exactly what I am really looking for right now. I see Franz exchange every day within his Alert chat room and he makes 100k/day on 1000-2000 es contracts, 9/10 days.

You can view more at http://www.alertroom.com/ (They have to be working on the website, since it currently redirects you to the parent site. There ought to be a meeting with Franz when it's finished.)

[Gduard]

92689
My good man, I do not doubt your honesty but I have never witnessed such a thing. I say if you're able to produce these kinds of returns, cease posting on this web site. Establish a fund and watch the cash roll in. With such returns it is possible to charge 40 percent of profits instead of the normal 20%. If you're consistent, the surplus liquidity in this world will have a new house: your fund. You may become one of the investors in existence. Franz is currently quite big, without working for anybody else. He makes 100k/day 9/10 times every day in front. He'd have one, if he desired a hedge fund.

I do not mind you criticizing everything you've experienced, but it always strikes me when somebody like you criticizes without ever having examined the signs. Have you ever seen his room? It's absolutely free, so you have no excuse.

[raqwl.deji]

92689
When I wrote a book, I would write about the way to concentrate on Drawdown first and foremost.... Im with ya savant...

drawdown is so significant that I use it as the risk part of this risk vs. reward equation. See this thread about my preferred system statistic, ROMAD....

https://www.cliqforex.com/general-forex-discussion/2797-news-today.html

[raqwl.deji]

92689
Merlin,


Hmmm.. .Romad...I want to place that column on my spreadsheet. . .but it is only a one. . .too awkward dude, a 1 isn't that bad. I exchange systems using a ROMAD of 0.8...

[Gduard]

92689
Franz... But as I said, all the more power to you if you actually pull this off. He's doing very nicely.

[Gduard]

92689
Set up a hedge fund immediately and watch the money roll in. With these kinds of returns it is possible to charge 40 percent of profits instead of the normal 20%. He trades his own account, up to approximately 14,000 contracts, also takes 100% of their profits.


If you're consistent, the surplus liquidity in this world will have a new house: your finance. You may become one of the most powerful investors in life. He is. He is the atomic bomb of this trading world -- the weapon.

[bcn914]

93412Isn't making profit on a basis what we're all trading for?
If I make now 5 percent and tomorrow I lose them then simply nothing really happend. If this would be done continuous I'd trade my lifetime that is entire and nothing _ that is _ has changed.
My objective is to do exactly what you've asked for. Ok. 5 percent there is a day considerably. I also would accept 1 percent. I would accept if I would make 1 pip every day. Day by day. Be profitable.
If I'd archieve this goal I'd be able to grow my account faster than everybody else.

And that I guess some are making continuous profit in a year, some in weeks and a few also in months.
Imagine you wouldn't only be profitable only every day, no only every trade. You make one day 2 trades and they're profitable. Don't care if it is only 1 pip.

Edit: Is not the match in markets only about developing the ability to make the correct decisions? Making the right decisons.

[igereka]

Franz, 92689Interesting. Hopefully I can read the post .

Out of curiousity, do you know anything regarding the alleged Market Monk that created quite a stir last autumn? He was also (supposedly) a top-notch ES trader...

http://bannronn.com/trading_blogs/market_monk.html



Something you miss is that there are folks like me around and it is difficult to believe that we do get 5 percent every day. There is always a trick to any kind of ability that make you a master. If majority knows it then the equilibrium of 90 percent lose money and 10% earn money will be shaken. It is within your mind to observe that the success in this business. 1300 end figure in my novel but I go along with that. I am going to attract your attention to the next issue of Traders World magazine article on yours truly along with the journalist also was witness the 5 percent accomplishment several random days and how it can be done, but remember this is the game of strong minds. It took me 10 years merely to understand this final part, and then there was no way back.

[naayrayu]

92689I don't think it's a fantastic idea to place yourself such goals daily. 5 percent is possible, but I prefer to not trade daily - only concentrate on the days when movements look likely. In other words - don't try to create the transactions - wait for them to come to you.


I prefer to check out the monthly ROI, and at present I am doing about 55% per month, that will be enough for me.

[Aitana2231]

92689
1300% very low end figure in my book but that I go along with that. Hello Franz, therefore what you are able to suggest to attain such outcome of yours? Can you provide service that is mentoring? Or do you open a trading room for us to follow along? Thank you in advance

[Rayofunny]

92689Interesting, Franz. Hopefully I can read the post that is upcoming on you.

The post interview on Franz Shoar is here:

http://www.tradersinternational.com/aboutus.php

[naayrayu]

92689
....but don't forget this is the sport of powerful minds. It took me 10 decades just to know this part, and then there was no way back. Absolutely right - but you might not need to spend 10 years at it until you get it? I believe I have made progress, with specialist help and also my mistakes have decreased. And that is not - that functions, and that I use a very simple one - but improving the mindset.

[Gduard]

92689
Hi Franz, so what you can suggest to achieve such result of yours? Can you provide service that is mentoring? Or do you start a trading room for us to follow? Thank you in advance He conducts the Alert Room chatroom in Traders International. Send me a private message for more information.

[Gduard]

92689
Absolutely correct - but do you really need to spend a decade at it until you receive it? I think I have made progress, with specialist help and my mistakes have reduced substantially. And that's not about improving technique - that functions, and that I use a very easy one - but enhancing the mindset. However much time you might have spent -- trust me -- you are nowhere close to the class of trader that Franz is.

[Picazom]

92689Hello Everybody:


I see that sounds the discussion concerning my trading has been picked up again in here. I make it brief Because I'm on vaion. Making money consistently in the market comes with confidence first and signal 2nd and remaining with the trade 3rd. I allow market come to me rather. The area has about 250 individuals inside. They are not there to see just how much money I earn. They are there to comprehend exactly what requires to become a good pro-trader. They know a thing that no trading area is performing enough currently and it's the most important part of trading and that's the plogical facet of the market. I then show them the skill. Sure I use my own made applications to help me to find the signal precise, but everyone in the area get compensated by the means of following me and grabbing a fish regular and slowly learnig how to ch a fish by themselves, realizing in order to get it done, you need a good plogical understanding of the market.
If you ask anyone in my area, they will tell you that how understanding the brain on other side functions, makes them understand the game better. They learn they need to stretch stop, not to follow the crowed, break rules and more importantly stay with their quality trades by comprehending the market bias. Many students in my area have of winning consecutively many times. It's all they're eager to go by increasing their contract size very cautiously and on account they've build up. Of course my Bulls Eye signals has alot to do with it.

I bring my pupil face to face with the market and tell them how to put the fear into the market not allowing the market place fear into them and so far we've been going in rather productive way.I allow my students to feel the pain and benefit of this market to see whether this is the carrier they want. I'm their inspiration, so they can produce the 100k in couple 17, one day. What's 100k and just how much cash do you need. You need 500k to earn 100k. Only 2 points with a good signal will make it and my applications find the best signals and we're generally done within 2 hrs in the morning. You will see I am followed by everybody and see it yourself and you can come and ch fish. We provide the signal 1/2 hr to when and how many contract that I'm entering in order that they can work out how many contracts they might want to trade and 45 minutes in advance to them. I will let them know my limit and possible stop (that we hardly ever need it), precisly and P/L facing the eyes also shows where I'm at so much the very Novice trader can trace. The signals are so apparent that a blind person, nor a person will have any time carrying it. No punt intended.

One time a pupil makes his/her 1st million in my area, I will be very pleased to provide him a copy of my applications spare so if they have not know how to fish, now they have the applications to survive. From the time they've made the 1 million, psycologically are so prepared that nothing will stay in their way. I call a teaching, that, sitting side by side every day bell to bell with a pro trader a trading area. I teach them something that took me at least 10 years that they can probably do in 3-6 months. I must acknowledge teaching others have left me a better trader too and I'm having a great year. I hope everyone of you traders in my area and outside, one day reach your goal and may God be with you. In case you've got love and the passion for as long as I have you'll make it and Good Luck everybody and Happy New year.

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[Leandro86]

Anybody a member of Traders International that may drop us any feedback?

[naayrayu]

92689
Yet much time you might have spent trust me -- you are nowhere near the type of trader that Franz is. Hmmm, interesting. What'type of trader' are you?

The same as Franz? Less than? Over? Does this matter? Are these issues of self-worth which are coming up, that we all have to wrestle with in gambling?

I am actually not comparing myself to Franz, who I am sure is a superb trader. I am just sharing my experience, and I am happy with my progress.

Can you agree it is equally as valuable to hear about the successes of these, such as most people , who are'on the way up', as people who've succeeded? As I am sure Franz did his way up, I believe people all are going through precisely the same stuff. Right Franz?

I am always open to learning more as well...

[Picazom]

92689
Hmmm, intriguing. What'type of trader' are you?

Exactly the same as Franz? Less than? More than? Does it matter? Are these issues of self-worth which are currently coming up, that we have to wrestle with in gambling?

I'm actually not comparing myself to Franz, who I am sure is a superb trader. I'm just sharing my experience, and I'm happy with my progress.

Can you agree it is just as valuable to hear about the successes of those, like most of us , who are'on the way up', as people who've succeeded? As I am convinced Franz did his way upward I think people are going through precisely the exact same stuff. Right Franz?

I'm always open to learning more as well....
Nice Guy, you are studying and in your way upward. The only difference I have made in my trading and teaching my own room, is to let students know how to trade efficiently and understand market psycology. Also the Beautiful Bulls Eye sign which precisely tell you where market going to turn. All of you need to sign for the free trial and see whether it is. I do have experience in the market, Futures and Forex. Come pick at my mind. I am on vaion til 3rd though. Good Luck.

[Picazom]

92689
Is anyone a member of Traders International that may drop us some comments? WTB
You should just sign for the free trial and you make your own decision making.

Franz Shaor

[naayrayu]

92689
Come pick my brain. I am on vaion til 3rd. Best of Luck.

Franz Shoar Thanks Franz. I will go and have a look. You may prefer to check out my site also...

[Gduard]

92689
Is anyone a part of Traders International that may drop us some feedback? I believe I did . Anything specific you'd like to know?

[Rikyvk]

92689quote from: lt;join deletedgt;


The performance depended upon by Traders International Corp. in comparing the TIMES system with different systems relies on hypothetical trading performance information.
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Can you please provide us a real traded performance?

Something which has been traded.

[Bhbberni]

92689Franz,

I hvae attempted to set up a free trial to access your room in accordance with your invitation a couple of times now and have not had a response from anybody - any clues on how I can find this set up as I am interested in taking a look.

Simon

[Picazom]

92689I think the office is jammed. You might choose to send an email to. The room was re started again and what a day it had been.



Franz,

that I hvae tried to set up a free trial to access your room as per your invitation a few times today and have not had a reply from anybody - any hints on how I could get this set up as I am interested in taking a look.

Simon

[Gduard]

The room of 92689Franz is in fantastic demand. I don't think he will be spending time submitting results. I can tell you made over 100k with actual cash today (1-3-06), as usual.

Because they have a free trial you are welcome to look it over.

He does not use the TIMES platform as such. On the other hand, the machine has been revised to incorporate more of Franz's methodology.



quote from: http://www.tradersinternational.com/


The operation relied upon by Traders International Corp. in comparing the TIMES system with other systems is based on hypothetical trading functionality information.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Could you please provide us an actual traded functionality?

Something which has been traded.

[lorenuqui]

Affiliated with Franz's room or 92689just wish to say I'm NOT a member, but this thread has really pissed me off. If FF is such a caring, nurturing, lovey-dovey place where everyone and anyone can learn all aspects of forex trading was Franz so harshly criticised in this thread? Without even doing any reseach 24, I mean if you dont agree with something, come on folks, dont rubbish it out the window. Much estimating asking questions next has happened here? I dont agree nor disagree with Franz's assertations, in reality I dont really care! Im concentrated on the PF that Ill be linking shortly.

How many of you would have raised several eyebrows had you been told a year ago that given the right trading conditions, it could be possible to earn a seemingly out of the ordinary return of state hmmm, in excess of 1500 pips for any particular month?

I joined this forum to find out. Period. As history has dictated, anyone using a novel way of doing something or asserts they can do the unthinkable has been laughed out of town, yet robots now crawl on Mars.

Good chance to Franz if what he says is accurate and shame about the hypocracy and closed-mindedness.

Happy New Year!

[Blankitave]

I watched Franz commerce on a day once the markets were unkind indeed. He got worked from it, handled it like a pro and slammed. It was impressive. He's, undoubtedly, the best trader I have ever seen commerce --and, yes, I have had the chance to watch some very excellent traders commerce.

One of the criticisms I agree with, comes from those who point out Franz isn't trading the TIMES method per se (not at all?) . It seems the company is acknowledging the point, evidenced by their latest openness to incorporate'a few' of' Franz' methodology to some revamped product. Yet, nothing of his HP and bullseye sigs source code/methods would draw me in at those prices. And despite this value included, an individual would still require considerable access to Franz in the trading room to learn how he climbs in and out of places, when and why he uses discretion to override sigs, etc..

For all of that, a healthy chunk of bread isn't too much to ask.
Thru

[Gduard]

If FF is such a caring, nurturing, lovey-dovey place where everyone and anyone can know all aspects of forex trading, then why was Franz so harshly criticised in this thread? Without performing any reseach 24, I mean if you dont agree with something, come on folks, dont rubbish it out the window. How much estimating , asking questions next has happened here? If you think this is bad you should see the incredible idiocy on Elite Trader. They KNEW he was a fraud without checking him out. Occam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is most likely, but quantum physics, among many other things, has shown this isn't true.

The simple explanation is that Franz can't be for real. But then again, it is wrong much of the moment.


Good chance to Franz if what he says is accurate and pity on the hypocracy and closed-mindedness. I was banned from ET for saying how good Franz is. I'm not connected with TI.

[igereka]

Yeah, I know of someone else that was immediately declared a fraud in ET because of one supposed reduction (that wasn't really a true reduction ) he had after beginning a trade journal. Sad.




If you think this is bad you ought to see the amazing idiocy on Elite Trader. They KNEW he was a fraud without even checking him out. Occam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is probably, but quantum physics, among other things, has shown this is not correct.

The easy explanation is that Franz can not be for real. But it's wrong a lot of the moment.

I was prohibited from ET for saying how good Franz is. I'm not connected with TI.

[Sandrasanzm]

I do not doubt Franz' honesty and capability. Though as a note of interest, Franz focus is really on SP currency trading and not Forex/Currency trading. The increase% he speaks of generating is being done while trading SP e-mini contracts. So this might be similar to comparing apples to oranges?

[Picazom]

Apple and oranges, Not sure. All I care is to earn money, and being a trader for a long time, I have learned if you can find a really good mrket that you're able to concentrate on and get to understand it is proceed, you are able to do a number that 100 other market couldn't do all together. SP 500 is a basket of 500 stocks and that is good enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I have traded Forex and have generated and it is worked on by my method . It only while I am waiting for good signals in forex, I have done 5-7 trades in SP and have made my money for a week of what Forex could have made for me. I am not in this business for my health. Good Luck.

[igereka]

The trader I said in a previous post turned to Euro futures from the SP emini, and says he is doing better. Generally , a really good trader should be able to change to any market and do well. One of the Market Wizards claimed he could walk into any trading pit on earth and exchange any device. Fear and greed do not change.

The largest difference, in my opinion, is that the SP eminis are likely more difficult to trade than FX for the majority of people. When it's the boys around the floor, or the massive volume of contracts traded by computers, I'm not certain, but it tends to have more false breakouts, head fakes, and consolidation. But, you are still able to find all the same patterns, trends, retracements, reversals, etc. that you see in other markets.



I don't doubt Franz' honesty and capability to gain $$ while trading. Though as a note of interest, Franz focus is on SP e-mini trading and not Forex/Currency trading. The growth% he speaks of creating is being performed while trading SP e-mini contracts. So this might be like comparing apples to oranges?

[mneseas]

Franz: Under your first article at forum, you submitted #63 under the ribbon FF Rollcall Who we are...? In that you were looking for a fantastic method for trading currencies. You said you wanted to exchange concepts using a currency system trader as you already had a fantastic index futures strategy. In a post above you state your system works nicely with currencies. Could you address this additional and should TI operates on currencies? I am confused but am impressed with your success! Thanks, Chase

[davefpknes]

There are many ways to skin the... LoL
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Chance#example:_The_Ultimate_Trader_0

[Picazom]

I was looking for ways to trade Foreign Exchange little better than what I was doing. I understood, at the end of the day it is not so important where I have made the money, for as long as I have made it. Forex is great market, but waiting for a few day trading signal can be small fruing. On the other hand future that is E-mini SP has adequate amount of day trading signals which lets me have a 9-5 job and off to spending some time with family. I found it harder to have those hrs. with Forex. One thing I really like on Forex is the liquidity, but what I do not like the major spread of peps between bid and ask.
Over a lot of years I have discovered if you can just trade 1 stock or 1 particular future market regular and you become knowledgeable about the transfer of that market, you create outrageous money on it. Well, the e-mini SP is exactly that and it's part of combination of stocks within the world. My mother always said when a knott can open with your hand would you want to open it. So I'm starting it with hand. Just for album I have surpassed the 62% yield ROI for Jan. 2006. Next week I will be in Orlando and afterwards in month of Feb. in NY. Stop by and say hi. Go to Adv. section I have posted the Info. Additionally there'll be a banner ad soon here in forum to steer you to our site. Good Luck.








Franz: Under your very first article at forum, you posted #63 beneath the ribbon FF Rollcall Who we are...? In which you were looking for a fantastic system for trading currencies. You mentioned how you wanted to trade concepts with a currency exchange system trader as you had a fantastic index futures system. In a post above you state your system works with currencies. Can you address this further and if TI works on currencies? I'm confused but am impressed with your success! Thanks, Chase

[davefpknes]

Over so many years I have discovered that if you can only exchange 1 inventory or 1 future market regular and you become familiar with the move of the market, you earn outrageous money on it. Well, the e-mini SP is that and it's a part of biggest combination of best stocks within the world. My mother always said when you're able to start a knott with your hand would you wish to open it. So it is starting . Just for album I have already surpassed the 62% return ROI for Jan. 2006. Next week I'm in Orlando and later on in month of Feb. in NY. Stop by and say hello. Go to Adv. section I have posted the Info. Also there will be a banner ad here in forum to guide you. Good Luck.

Franz Shoar Yeswe can always pick 1 curency pair and exchange... GBP/CHF; GBP/JPY; USD/CHF; GBP/USD pairs give more typical pips range per day in that order... Your mother was keeping it simple and stupid... One time frame (M1) -- one siimple tool/setup -- courage -- subject and patience...

Are you planning a vist into Canada? Toronto?

Cheers,
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[Picazom]

Yes, we can always pick one curency pair and exchange... GBP/CHF; GBP/JPY; USD/CHF; GBP/USD pairs provide more typical pips range daily at that order... Your mother was keeping it simple and dumb... One time period (M1) -- one siimple tool/setup -- courage -- discipline -- and patience...

Are you currently planning a vist to Canada? Toronto?

Cheers,
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As of now I do not see any strategy for Toronto area. I will inform you on the Adv. section for any new forthcoming events.

[Laurivict05]

Franz,

I sent a appliion form in your site and nobodys called me back yet, are you guys a little active there??? Moreover, you dont plan on coming into the cayman islands to do a convention are you??? What percentage of your traders are fulltime traders??? thanks,

[Picazom]

franz,

I sent a appliion form on your website and nobodys called me back yet, are you men a little busy there??? You dont plan on arriving to perform a convention are you currently??? What percentage of your traders are fulltime traders??? Thanks, tiago

Hello: They are little busy but they will get back to youpersonally, to set you up for second Monday possibly. No strategy of Cayman Island. I do not head vaioning there, it is favorite place of mine. Over 55 percent of the traders are full time and two dozen former floor traders. Good Luck.

[Laurivict05]

Franz I heard that your not using the TIMES method is this the truth?? When you combine TIMES is this a sign service or do they really show you how you can trade so if you'd like you may take it on your own without being in an area when you graduate....ive noticed your not using the TIMES method and your own using your own things, just want to hear it from the horses mouth, is TIMES in the long run going to bring some of your personal indiors as well, if that's the case, when??? Thank you for your response franz...

[Picazom]

franz I heard that your not using the TIMES strategy to trade, is this the fact?? When you combine TIMES is this a sign service or do they really show you how to trade so if you'd like you may take it on your own without being in a room after you graduate....ive discovered your not using the TIMES method and your using your own things, only wish to hear it from the horses mouth, is TIMES in the long run going to bring some of your own personal indiors too, if so, when??? Thank you for your reply franz....tiago Hi Tiago:

There are 2 parts to TI course. One which you can learn by yourself and trade, and 1 you can see. You receive 3 months of the 2nd part and if you feel making 5% every day from the alert room is atractive then you can continue and pay $18.00 per day. If not you've got system which you may trade by yourself. The 2nd advance part only invest in your pocket every day with gang buster signals. My Target in the room is your yield every day.
Both of those method are TI signs. Good Luck.

Franz

[CRISUOX]

It is possible to get 5 percent daily, however you have to make less transactions and use larger lots, insted of 0.1 you use 0.4. Choose pairs which are fluctuative such as cad/jpy or even aud/jpy with higher interest rates. Use daily charts, or 4H charts.
I have read some books and watched convention of a trader who made from 5K$ to 40K$ in 4 weeks. And it's the secret to be successful in forex transactions.
It is a standard forex trader's error that he or she'll attempt to ch every pip out of trade.

[Gduard]

It's possible to get 5 percent daily, but you must make less transactions and use bigger lots, instead of 0.1 you use 0.4... I've read some books and observed seminar of a trader who made from 5K$ to 40K$ in 4 weeks.
Franz earns more than 5 percent daily on average, with 36 winning days in a row, though he does not do it with forex but instead with SP500 emini contracts.

[naayrayu]

Franz makes more than 5% daily generally, with 36 winning times in a row, though he does not get it done with Currency Market but rather with SP500 emini contracts. I really do it with Forex. It would be great to have somebody like you talking in my behalf!!!

[Aliciusss1]

I really do it with Forex. It'd be good to have somebody Do you use your left brain to perform it?

[naayrayu]

Do you use your left brain to perform it? It either side really, but most of us seem to need to sort out the ideal mind to facilitate this.

[Gduard]

I really do it with Forex. It'd be great to have somebody Can you make more than 100k daily just like Franz? If this is the case, I would be delighted to recommend you.

[naayrayu]

Can you make over 100k daily like Franz? If so, I'd be happy to recommend you. No. I have a bigger account that I am building. I do about 60% ROI per month so I think anyone earning that rate will get there pretty quickly! Have you been interested in ROI potential for yourself? In any case, it would be better to test my system out before advocating it...

[Aliciusss1]

No. I have a smaller account that I am building. I do about 60% ROI per month, therefore I think anyone getting that rate will arrive fast! Have you been interested in 60% ROI possible for yourself? In any case, it would be better to try my system out before advocating it.... 60% a month is possible if you're a fantastic experienced trader. Even a newbie like me has dropped 10 percent a month the previous 3 months using totally system which auto commerce.

Niceguy,
Is your system posted anywhere?
If not, I'd appreciate if you could clarify the system you're trading to acheive this.
Thank you,
Mangala

[naayrayu]

60% a month is possible if you are a good experienced trader. Even a newbie like me has averaged 10 percent a month the last 3 months by using mechanical system which auto commerce.

Niceguy,
Is your system posted everywhere?
Otherwise, I would appreciate if you could clarify the system you are trading to acheive this.
Thanks,
Mangala It's a tough idea to get around to people, since there seems to be an entrenched collective notion that great results aren't possible until you have already been doing it for years and you've got some complied or magic formula which only the initiated traders understand about.

I had been doing 60% after 3 months of trading. I just found something very straightforward, and I get about 95 transactions, when I stick to it. I like simple, and why try to repair it if it works?

I'll PM you wth the facts of my website.

[Usuario]

I had been doing 60% after 3 weeks of live trading. I found something very simple, and I get about favorable transactions, when I adhere to it. I enjoy simple, and if it works, why try to repair it?

I'll PM you wth the details of my site. Niceguy,

Sounds like any brilliant results. Certainly the kind of results I would be delighted to call my own. And simple is better. Would you mind PM'ing me with the details of your site?

J

[cocoe]

It's a difficult idea to get around to people, because there appears to be an entrenched collective belief that great results aren't possible until you have been doing it for many years and you have some complied or magic formula which only the initiated traders understand about.

I had been doing 60 percent after 3 months of trading. I just discovered something and I get about positive trades once I stick to it. I like simple, and if it works, why try to repair it?

I'll PM you wth the facts of my website.
Hey niceguy777, could you PM the particulars too. I would really like to check your system out.

Fidel

[Aliciusss1]

I forgot to say that the system I used to acheive 10% a month reunite.
It's a grid based program that is risky and can make you triple digit returns per month. I received this from a different forum and is the property of this. In order to minimise the prospect of risking of blowing my account, I exchange this with a low leverage of 0.3:1 and just through times where there is volatility and directional bias. I trade only one of the biggest traded currency pairs at a time.

The machine basicaly sets orders for every higher high and lower , on a tick by tick basis, upto a certain number of orders. It closes the orders when the profit reaches 1% of your account balance. It's a pretty stupid and simple method but it works for me and makes money. This program has the potential to dismiss off your account unless you use quite conservative money management

Cheers,
Mangala

[bixxyproxd]

I forgot to mention that the system I was able to acheive 10 percent a month reunite.
It's a grid based system that is risky and can make you triple digit returns per month. I got this from another forum and is the property of this. In order to minimise the chance of risking of blowing up my account, I trade this using a low leverage of 0.3:1 and just during times where there is directional and volatility bias. I trade only one of the currency pairs at a time.

The system basicaly sets orders for each higher high and lower low, on a tick by tick basis, upto a certain number of orders. It closes the orders when the profit reaches 1% of your account balance. It's a method that is dumb and easy but it works for me and makes money. This system has the capability to blow your account if you don't use very conservative money management

Cheers,
Mangala
This method of yours, even though you call it dumb, is interesting since you say it gets you money. The simpler the system the better.

Could you elaborate on this for us. I'm very curious.

Thanks Beforehand

[Laurivict05]

Wondering if brain trading man could offer proof of this claim of 60% a month

Theres an awful large amount to produce every month without having something to back this up, with the sc and what going around the net....not saying this man is a scam, but we've seen men like this making big boasts and in the end they don't have any substance, then its to late as a whole bunch of newbies just bought there book or trading software that was suppose to increase there trading thus dramatically....

Dont mean to break the fellow canadians chunks, but im just tired of this sc aimed at scamming the newbies money, come on left brain man, even start with a demo account log in the very least if you dont need to show us the real account....or create live calls for the week..., cayman islands paramedic

[cocoe]

wondering when left mind trading guy could offer evidence of this claim of 60% per month????????

Thats an awful lot to produce every month without needing something to back this up, with all the sc and what going around the internet....not saying this guy is a scam, but we have seen men like this making big boasts and at the end they have no substance, then its to late because a whole bunch of newbies only bought there book or trading program which was suspect to improve trading thus dramatically....

Dont mean to split the fellow canadians balls, but im just tired of this sc geared toward scamming the newbies money, come on left mind guy, even start with a demo account log in least if you dont want to show us your real account....or create live calls for the week....tiago, cayman islands paramedic I concur with you Tiago. I would also like to see some logs of past performance. I have bought into some trading progr exclaiming large returns, but proven to be my mother's journal readings. Let it be clear that no one is accusing anyone of scamming, but for me, I would love to see any hard facts before buying your own program. No offense to you leftbrain.


Fidel

[naayrayu]

I concur with you Tiago. I would like to see some logs of past performance. I have bought exclaiming yields, but proven to be the diary readings of my mother. Let it be clear that no one is accusing anyone of jealousy, but for mepersonally, I would like to see some hard facts before buying your program. No offense to you leftbrain.

Fidel Hi Fidel, no offence taken. There are a lot of sc out there, and a lot of hype . I had a chat with Tiago, therefore you may be told by him what he believed. As I explained to him, there's little benefit for me if I were to be scamming. The net would surely be sure of that!

I must have been gullable, I guess, in buying a Currency Market course for a hell of a lot more than the price of my book, without a'hard facts' to back it up - just heaps of hype and peer pressure. If you think what I am offering might be a scam, I will make a scammer that is poor at $25 a move!

If you want a chat, PM me.

[kiokay]

It's easier to say than to create it real, when we would like to place a profit target of 5 percent on daily basis. It's possible, I suggest there's a opportunity to do so, but you have to realize this in order to make it happen, you need to trade with a gearing. Let us just say, you'll need to use 20:1 leverage or higher. That is far too risky person, in fact that's insanity (in my point of view).

There were times when the exchange rates for any pair of currency overshooted. The price moved with a quantity that was normal. If you were in the right direction, -you were so lucky as you'd make a profit of 10% or maybe more in a trade. If you were in the direction of the market, -BOOM- your account is dead.

I favor setting a weekly or yearly target (with a realistic target and low gearing). It's not fun to lose money when you lose all the funds in your account. I don't like to lose. I place realistic profit target within each trade.

I believe we still recall when exporting EUR rally against USD roughly 200 pips on Friday, countinued with roughly 150 pips rally on Monday. If you used high gearing and your open position is contrary to the price motion, your account has been in peril.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... your opinion will be appreciated

Trade wisely, man.... And keep realistic.... Trading days are long. If we can not win today, there's is just another day to exchange...

[Aliciusss1]

It is easier to say than to make it real, when we want to place a profit target of 5 percent on daily basis. It's possible, I mean there's a chance to do so, but you have to realize this in order to make it happen, you have to trade with a high gearing. Let us just say, you'll have to use 20:1 leverage or higher. That's way too risky man, in fact that is insanity (from my point of view).

There were times when the exchange rates for any pair of currency overshooted. The price moved with a normal quantity to fast. If you were in the right direction, -you were so lucky because you would earn a profit of 10% or more in a transaction. If you were in the direction of the market, -BOOM- your account is dead.

I favor setting a weekly or monthly target (with a realistic target and low gearing). It's not fun to lose money, especially when you lose all the capital in your account. I really don't like to lose. I place realistic profit target within my every transaction.

I believe we still remember when i.e EUR rally against USD about 200 pips on Friday, countinued with about 150 pips rally on Monday. If you utilized gearing and your open position is against the price movement, your account was in peril.

Please correct me if I am wrong... your view will be appreciated

Trade wisely, guy.... And keep realistic.... Trading times are long. If we can not win today, there's is another day to trade.... Blast,
How long have you traded?

Should you use a stop loss that represents 5 percent or less, you cannot get your account blown as you describe, unless your trading platform plain sucks.

By means of a leverage of 20:1 does not constitute decent cash management. A leverage of over 5:1 is deemed risky.

Rather than leverage, you should be worried about how much you should risk in a transaction and that which the risk to reward ratio should be.
Maximum a newbie should risk in a transaction should be 2%. A pro will not risk more than 5 percent a transaction. The risk is set by the stop loss. Constantly use a stop loss unless you use Hedging with leverage.

Reward is dependent on make profit limit.

[kiokay]

D
Blast,
How long have you traded?

Should you use a stop loss that represents 5% or not, you cannot get your account blown like you explain, unless your trading system plain sucks.

Using a leverage of 20:1 doesn't constitute decent cash management. A leverage of more than 5:1 is considered risky.

Instead of leverage, you ought to be worried about how much you must risk in a trade and what the risk to reward ratio ought to be.
Maximum a newbie must risk in a trade ought to be 2%. A pro won't risk more than 5% a trade. The risk is set by the stop loss. Always use a stop loss if you don't use Hedging with proper leverage.

Reward is dependent on take profit limit. Thank you for your comments Mangala. I appreciate that.
I have been trading for 3 decades.
You are right, trading with 20:1 is too risky, and I've said that in my own posting. I don't trade more than 5:1 leverage. Anybody trading with leverage greater than 5:1 is crazy (from my standpoint ). I don't use stop loss also, it sucks... but I utilize take profit limitation and tailling stops to protect my profit. I really do hedging. In my posting, I only want to say it is possible to reach 5% per day (there is a possibility to do this - in theory), however I won't recomend anyone nor to do so, since that will involve a loony cash management. Nonetheless, it is your own money, all the risk and reward will be pointed back at you.

Usualy I utilize leverage of 1:1 in my single trade.


Thank's again for your comment, Mangala.

PS: even if we use stop loss, when our possition is against the price movement (especially when it is move overshoot) that your possitions quaranteed to be stoped outside, and also if your account is not blown out, it still sucks.

[Aliciusss1]

Blast,
I've a feeling you are using a system that is similar to mine. I could be entirely wrong.

The machine I use also involves hedging and no prevent losses. I also started with using 1:1 leverage. The machine is aggressive and has the capability to escape control and blow the account.

What it does is wait for a specialized cause to set an order. In case the market goes in the way it will continue to add orders. In case the market goes in the opposite direction and below the original point, it is going to add offsetting positions. It does not use a stop loss. When the profit reaches 1% of their account balance the orders will be shut.

Some times the grids may get larger and larger before attaining the profit target. This occurs when the market is ranging or when in the middle of a symmetrical ascending triangle formation. That can be when the account can go belly up.

The most effective approach to trade is utilizing 0.1 to 1 leverage and when there is a strong directional motion and decent volatility. I Auto trade this. This sort of systems are called Grid Trading Systems.

There are lots of versions of this.

I also have tested longer term hedging techniques with a fixed ratio of currency pairs. The proportion of the currency pairs along with the currency pairs chosen allows for effective hegding against loss whilst earning interest every day while waiting for a profit to be accomplished. I use volatility, relative strength analysis, currency pair corellation to go into the market. This egy may provide you 10% a month also, but is considerably safer compared to Grid Trading Systems.

Cheers,
Mangala

[raqwl.deji]

Have we answered this question? Is 5% daily achievable?

[naayrayu]

have we answered this question yet? Is 5 percent daily achievable? Wellit took seven webpages, but I think so! Well, I for one know it's! I guess it's just for everyone to find for themselves at the end...

[raqwl.deji]

Have you ever been able to string ten 5% times in a row however?

Im not being coy, I am interested if anyone out there could do this x% every day thing. Id love to find some evidence because ive always believed it couldnt it may be done.

[naayrayu]

have you been able to string ten 5 percent days in a row however?

Im not being coy, I am interested if anyone out there could do this x% per day thing. Id like to see some evidence it can be achieved because ive always believed it couldnt. Well, my longest run of favorable trades was 70, until I did something stupid. I don't think it's a good idea because this takes you away from tuning in to the trading to define an amount per day that you intend to attain, but I think that would cover it. Over 20 days, I, Within my months I didn't trade because I have commnts and they weren't consecutive. I would need to check out the figures to give you an accurate answer, but I am a bit busy with the new folks on the machine at the moment, so forgive me if I don't.

[raqwl.deji]

Hey Guys,

Before I proceed making any crazy claims - those outcomes are DEMO ACCOUNT. I am a university student for trading with all kinds of debt, no money and no time. But maybe I need to make the time if I could trade like this. I will also tell you this really is the best run I've ever had - I've lost thousands of demo-dollars through the years. This account started with $1000 in it so I chose a block of time which made my results look better than they actually are. Also the account is in Canadian Dollars not USD in case you're wondering about the pip values.

You may notice the dates on these transactions - it had been during my test period and christmas break last semester so I had nothing to do [analyzing would have been a good idea... but trading has been more fun ] but commerce.

Anyhow - just thought I would throw this into this thread to see what kind of response it got. Of course my name etc has been removed from the client report.

lonespruce. Well its a demo account, but you posted at broker report! Wonderful work man.

I am waiting to find a live broker account which shows even 20 days in a row of Xpercent every day. Ive been waiting for serveral years for some reason nobody can ever produce this, so I havent been able to change my paridigm could be accomplished.