Andrews Pitchfork (Median Line)

[kaplan_79]

Hello all

I love to open this thread for trading with Andrews Pitchfork on euro/usd
I have all median line publiions and e-book out of Tim Morge, Greg Fisher and Gordon
I always want to say I still exercise but all my trading is live on mini accounts.
I trust we can help each other and that I will attempt to post daily with euro used market update.

Regards
Catalin

[jotean]

Hi justalin,
Great to get a different forker here. I hope to share and learn from you and all the other wonderful traders out there.
Good luck.
Zones

[jotean]

I hope you don't mind if I begin the proceeding by submitting a possible transaction that never materialised today. I waited and waited but never obtained an optimum entry on this one.
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[kaplan_79]

Hello ,
Great to have a different forker here. I hope to share and learn from you and the rest of the wonderful traders on the market.
Good fortune.
Zones Thanks for post
Me too im happy to see some forker
No problem you can post but please only eur/usd chart not to be confuse with lots of croses...I believe is Far Better to do this until we trade constantly profitable
Regards

[kaplan_79]

I hope you do not mind if I start the proceedings by submitting a potential trade that never materialised today. I waited and waited but never obtained an optimum entry with this one. That is my view of your chart
Personaly im looking on big interval D1 4H 1H then on 15 min for entry if I find a installation.
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[jotean]

Clean chart and very well explained. Good stuff.
Maybe because of my lack of experience, I am more comfortable with the traditional sell method of Morges( test-retest failure).

[jotean]

This is my chart euro usd 4h interval
I expect euro to go at slipping paralel then up justalin, on your chart, is that a Schiff fork?

[kaplan_79]

, in your chart, is that a Schiff fork? In my fist chart is altered schif median line
However, you can also draw inside median line, both of median works nicely in this trend.
Look at my image
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[kaplan_79]

Great morning
Euro usd virtually hit inside sliding paralel lineup
We shall se what happen, I still stay away today until I have further confirmation for buy
Regards
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[kaplan_79]

Hello all

Yesterday I was so exhausted and I dont make market upgrade
Now I move my uper sliding paralel and let see works and should I have more affirmation I will search for sell
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[kaplan_79]

for many of those who have enough time to check on 15 minutes look at this nice entry for simple 180 pips using a cease 20 pips
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[kaplan_79]

For all of you who wish to see the way to draw median line from metatrader and how to utilize https://www.youtube.com/embed/VTtqsmCqMhQ?origin=https://www.cliqforex.com
Please rate the movie if was usefull for you

[frank20170416]

Thank forker I really like this thread
keep up great work

where could I get timorty morgen, fisher and gordon ebook?

[kaplan_79]

Thank forker I really like this thread
maintain great work

where can I get timorty morgen, fisher and gordon ebook? Send me an email in to give you All of the information
I cant post here because I broke the rulls

Im glad you like this thread

[sarbowsky11]

Hi Justalin,

I Enjoy PFs as well. Could you show me exactly where you drew the first pivot from on the long down move on the 15 minute chart?

[kaplan_79]

Hi Justalin,

I like PFs as well. Can you show me exactly where you drew the first pivot out of the long down proceed about the 15 minute chart? Yes consider chart is altered schif fork not SCHIF FORK
Remember we have median line, median lineup schif and median lineup altered schif
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[sarbowsky11]

What is a modified Schiff? I can figure out of you pic, but I'd like to hear about it. Where did you learn it?

[kaplan_79]

What is a modified Schiff? I am able to figure out from you pic, but I'd like to hear about it. Where did you learn it? \
I will try to explain with my words concerning altered schif
I Simply Need to make the expliion charts
I hope evryone will enjoy and also to keep this thread tidy using trading pitchfork I sugest to utilize just euro usd till we exchange profitable
Today I will make the charts and I will bill latter
Regards

[kaplan_79]

Ok I come back with my expliion
I hope will be usefull to evryone
Regards
Catalin
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[janixxo60]

Forks and Fibs are only lines describing general what price is doing. Determined by them as triggers for trade entries in the long term will most likely be fruing. Price has been bouncing between the decrease median line and center line and washed/rinsed April 14 and lasted upward forming a V arrangement that's essential for future trading. Following the wash/rinse price swapped a couple of days (white boxes) and may have given a few buys depending on one's entry egy. image
Hello Winston, thanks to your view

you've got a differant median line to mine, but I detect either of ours are casting a downtrend.

I have been analyzing median lines for approximately 1 month, but I honestly don't think my median lines were invalid, and also the yellow median lineup was in control and had been previously examined too. My perception is that when a power stage comes and price hits it, price will either have a strong response to it and rebound or price will plow through it. Taking the direction of price into believing it was my opinion that price would rebound there ....and tbh it'd somewhat before several bars later blowing. I took that position on my actual account. I shouldn't lol and have return to demonion. Also I'm wondering if there are particular times with this method we shouldn't take trades, I find no mention of the? I took this at gmt nighttime time. Does this system of trading call for trades only to be taken through London/FF/US trading hours.

I'd agree with you believed that you can't simply wack on a median line everywhere and take positions each time price touches it and hope to become profitable. Currently after my first month on demonion I ended the month in real profits but tbh that this may have been down to chance due to the end of the demonion most trades were failing as tbh it seems like that was what I was doing. This motivated me to study harder . . .and I saw the reason a lot of them collapsed. The toughest thing about the median line stuff imo is loing a valid C. Those that I took that did work out well I decided to examine them noticed that they tended to be pressured pivots [previous price response in that area] and the true pivot arrangement was similar to how greg fisher briefly explains how to draw them into his free book. I decided to buy gregs full book. It went into a bit more detail about the pivots and gave more examples which helped me explain his real method of defining pivots as before I discovered there was a few situations where I was not certain what he would do. Apart from though I'm not really too sure if greg fishers material alone has enough to really be profitable. There was little to nothing or where to really initiate orders.

I analyzed more of tims material too, and tbh I like to shoot positions when both tims requirements and gregs have been fulfilled. I'm not sure I know all tims conditions tbh because I just have access to this free material. I notice you say you don't think there's enough free things out there to become profitable. You may be right on that, I suppose time will tell. I didn't get a whole lot from the free youtube videos tbh, but the CME videos I discovered quite eduing . .and feel like a few pieces of this puzzle are to be loed there. Again, I'm not quite certain if it's going to be sufficient to become profitable though I may end up needing to buy access to tims site.

I'm a bit confused tbh over what timeframe to use. Occasionally an entry is valid on h1 or h4 ....but it is only that h4 will have significantly less pubs till the median line is reached. I required a eur/usd h1 entry a couple of days back [long] . . .and considering pricing arrangement it fulfilled my requirements on h1, but maybe not on h4 ... so I accepted it on h1 basis although given the massive gap from MHL to median point you'd think h4 are the most acceptable time to use. My demo account then ended [30 days had elapsed] and it threw away my position unfortunately. Atm price has made good progress to the upside..., but when we use tims method of tracking each swing lows with a stop I would have stopped out on h1 with around 1:3 RR . . .but when I'd trailed each h4 swing low with a stop that I would not have been stopped out yet. So what time to use and on what stage to trail swing lows is a bit perplexing imo
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[Oxnuarns]

Please take a look at this plot men and give me some guidence. Secondly swing was adjusted to describe the movement. picture
Your 3rd pivot point is what's called curve fitted. It's not preferred.


Consider it in another manner.

NZD/CHF h4
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[Inferior69]

Thank you for your help, was not sure about the past pivot in the picture which I posted but the guidence you posted has helped. Are you currently using metatrader? Desired find out how I can find the additional gray lines on either side of the median line.

[Oxnuarns]

Thank you for your help, was not sure about the past pivot from the picture that I posted but the guidence you posted has helped. Are you currently using metatrader? Wanted find out how I could get the extra grey lines on both sides of the median line.
YW. To get mt4 platform, the AML v1 indior is flexible. Read the article using indior on page 30 of this thread.
Here is the connection: https://www.cliqforex.com/general-forex-discussion/2797-news-today.html
Great trading.

[Inferior69]

much appreciated!

[anpkniooxred]

Altered Schiff accurately captures price. However the amount of information is excessive and bar PA can't be seen.
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H4 now reveals PA.. Swings are arguably the most important aspect of drawing and interpreting forks. In addition pubs and their relationship to other structures at the fork help to understand the language of price and also solve the mystery of entry/exit.
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[Inferior69]

Wonderful stuff. I wish to make the median line/pitchfork tool a fundamental part of the egy. I bought Dr. Mircea Dologa's publiion on integrated pitchfork analysis but Im finding it hard to get through as a beginner. I am really interested in learning how to translate price action in relation to forks. Where can I learn the basics?

[anpkniooxred]

Amazing stuff. I want to make the median line/pitchfork instrument a central element of my egy. I purchased Dr. Mircea Dologa's publiion on integrated pitchfork analysis but Im finding it hard to get through. Where can I learn the fundamentals? Frankly I wouldn't attempt to understand from that publiion. A fantastic place to start is http://www.marketgeometry.com.

[Inferior69]

Thank you for the connection. I'll keep posting my job on here and continue studying.

[anpkniooxred]

EURUSDH4 was in a range but recent swings would be to the downside. The tail proved to signify bearishness and promoting the return to WRB gap 1 was fabulous. Price sold off having an WRB outside bar then gapped down with a different WRB. The blue fork has been violated to the other hand and according to Andrew's rules price will return up and retest the blue median line. This could also be an additional place to brief nevertheless it would be nice to find a lower low first.
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[anpkniooxred]

GU generally trending upward along with an upfork can be attracted describing this overall PA.. I've attracted a blue modified Schiff as shown. More importantly is that the price action that lately has indied several bearishness and offered a trade or two which was worthy for those who detected. The orange MPL is important and contains a massive WRB that's the controlling structure. PA in that region will be important whether it retains or goes through.
WRB gap two zoomed the yellow centre line. Andrews rules applies and if price zooms it will frequently return. This returns to the line and also the WRB gap source where a sell may have been entertained. Notice the tail/OB on the way up into the yellow centre line. This signifies bulls and WRB gap 3 took these bulls out. A return to this region was another potential sell. Another WRB gap was formed a couple days past and its source is shown using all the grey/blue rectangle. R is important so the MPL as stated earlier is now coming into play.
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[anpkniooxred]

GU H4. Don't consider this as a Multi-time frame type of item. I treat it completely separately. The yellowish fork fulfilled it's purpose with price coming back to it's center line. It broke resistance and has been gapping down and has broken the lower ML. The bullish WRB gap 1 has been taken out. A return to WRB gap/OB 2 is something I'd be interested in. We are going to see.
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[anpkniooxred]

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[anpkniooxred]

picture I like this one better.
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[anpkniooxred]

quote I like this one better. picture Obtaining long at the arrow is tough for many. Price took out the bearish tail using WRB gap 1 after making a higher low and proceeded on to create a higher high. After falling sellers at the top bluish-grey rectangle price came down to WRB gap 1 land. 50% of those gaps in the right situation is a fantastic place to think about. In this case buying it was the commerce. Price was not able to get to WRB gap 2s origin indiing strength to the upside. Additionally price zoomed the reddish TL that's acting as a centerline. Remember Andrew's principle that when price zooms a median line it frequently contributes to retest it there may be another opportunity to get long.
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[anpkniooxred]

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[anpkniooxred]

Before I apply forks I look at the market in general. At the light gray horizontal it is apparent that buyers took out a long standing area of vendors using a massive WRB gap. This is a controlling structure. The OHLC isn't visible on this chart and thus it is not what I'd use to exchange. But zooming out a bit can give you a an idea of what the market is doin overall.
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[anpkniooxred]

Before I employ forks I have a look at the market generally. At the light gray horizontal it is clear that buyers took a long standing area of vendors with a large WRB gap. This remains a structure. The OHLC is not visible on this chart and so it is not what I'd use to exchange. But zooming a bit can give one a an idea of what the market is doin overall. picture Identifying important swings is adjacent. The swings are similar and also also the swings are alike. The final green swing is not complete since it is not yet evident whether it will turn down or continue. Swings in such a manner also helps to identify applicable pivots. Otherwise one can get bogged down trying to determine which pivot is significant or utilizing any recoil just to meet one's predetermined view as opposed to an objective view. Remember the light grey line beneath.
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[anpkniooxred]

quote Identifying important swings is next. The blue swings are similar and the green swings are similar. The last green swing is not complete as it is not yet evident whether it is going to turn down or continue. Identifying swings in such a fashion also helps to identify relevant pivots. Otherwise one can get bogged down trying to determine which pivot is significant or utilizing any pivot just to satisfy one's predetermined perspective as opposed to an objective perspective. Keep in mind the gray line beneath. image Other constructions can help. Wide Range Bars or even WRBs are used in other methods. Here WRBs which are openings help. They're significant because they identify where buyers or sellers made a significant move. Don't make the mistake of using these as supply and demand traders may use them. The source of them is not always a sure thing for trading. Understanding the total market and it's construction will decide whether or not to trade those regions.
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[anpkniooxred]

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[anpkniooxred]

EUR/USD 15 min. A small lazy to go into lengthy explanation but maybe the chart is enough.
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[kaplan_79]

This is my chart euro usd 4h interval
I expect euro to go at slipping paralel then up
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