thread: VTTrader: Indicator Discussions for VT Trader

I was thinking of something similar to this about a week back....very intriguing indior, looks like there is definetly some apliion for this.

Try applying the standard version with the Same Parameters along with it to reveal you momentum changes.

In other words, if you apply a 4 Hour 21 period Variable Timeframe SMA on a 1 Hour Chart, additionally apply a Conventional 21 SMA to the same chart.

Yeah I have been doing a lot of experimenting with it....doing exactly what you proposed. . I am seeing some possible here.

As far as a few trading rules with varying ma's- EX. 1hr chart with 21 ma and variable 4hr 21 ma- are you looking for the quicker 1hr 21 ma to agree with all the 4hr 21 ma. The base of the majority of multi-timeframe systems(triple screen) will be for your smallest period to maintain sync with all the larger. I think most of us know the basic assumption of triple screen trading. The 1 problem I have is that you give up the big first breakout moves the timeframe ches up using all the new fad change. Any trader understands the fruion of watching a trend change and your system will not let you take the trade because the timeframe that is larger will be lagging. I am curious to setups anyone or any proposals . There needs to be something Elder method of ma's in agreement. So I am searching for a method to use besides the typical Elder method, I have been trading for about a year.

Any Thoughts?
RIP

The projection oscillator(widner) seems great, where can I find this indior?
Thanks

- I wake up this morning and decide to exhibit some fantail trades at beginning of euro morning 5am eastern(live in Texas).

All of the majors are showing strong trending fantail formations on lower timeframes(5min-10min). Just like you wait till you're able to see the candles- you can actual buy the pullbacks- because the longer Ma's on fantail display longterm trend. I am using a PPO oscillator- however any oscillator or CCI etc..

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TY
RIP

the projection oscillator(widner) seems great, where can I find this indior?
Thanks

Hi spinmypip,

I've the Stickies within this forum carve in an effort to help you to find any Indiors or Strategies that were posted. So. . If you find a conversation on one that interests you, then you need to be able to detect it in this thread

Indiors Trading Systems Only. No Discussions please.

If You're looking for the Fantail MA's,
here's the connection.
https://www.cliqforex.com/general-fo...shift-pst.html

hth

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- I wake up this afternoon and decide to demo some fantail transactions at beginning of euro morning 5am eastern(live in Texas).

All of the majors are showing powerful trending fantail formations on reduced timeframes(5min-10min). Like you said wait until you're able to see the candles- you can actual buy the pullbacks- since the Ma's on fantail display trend. I am using a PPO oscillator- however any oscillator or CCI etc..

See picture
TY
RIP

Hi RIP,

I have a look at Overlayed Stohs for time your entrance. Pay particular attention.

https://www.cliqforex.com/general-fo...tes-pairs.html

- This is a good illustration of a transaction using the Overlayed Stoichastics and Fantail(see picture ). Because the long term fantail was sweet I started focusing on the EUR/USD. I dropped down to 5 minutes for a shorterm trade. I am still working out to the overlay timeframe. And truth be told- it will be on 1hrtimeframe when I begin trading real money. I am attempting to work out a few methodology together with ma's and the multitimeframe and fantail stoichastic.

I'm imagining that if using the Overlay stoic. You wish to visit the highest or the 2nd higher timeframe? Here is a perfect trade on 5 minutes eur/usd w/ 15 minutes overlay stoichastic and fantail. As you can see in the picture - that the price is observable above fantail. The 15 minutes and 5 min stoichastic is sreaming buy crossover/oversold. I always use a price projection oscillator since it appears to indicate a tiny bit earlier over most oscillators. This is about as good as a trade as it is possible to get! I'm interested to use with overlay stoichastic. Which kind of stoichastic settings on a 5min,15minutes,30minutes,1hr,4hr timeframes. Is there some general guideline, such as the following greatest timeframe, or do you just eyeball it?
Thank you again!
RIP

Sorry yet another posting question. It won't accept a full size screenshot. While I catch each picture - till the froum will accept its size, it is not going to accept it till I make it real small and minimze the width and length of pic! Is there some other way to post a screenshot that is bigger. Ty

- This is an example of a Transaction using the Overlayed Stoichastics and Fantail(see Picture ). I began focusing on the EUR/USD because the long term fantail was sweet. I dropped down to 5 minutes to get a shorterm trade. I am working out on the overlay timeframe. And truth be told- once I really begin trading real money likely it will be on 1hrtimeframe. I am trying to work out a few methodology together with all the stoichastic and ma's.

I am imagining that when using the Overlay stoic. You wish to visit the greater period or the next highest? Here's a commerce on 5 minutes eur/usd w/ 15 minutes overlay stoichastic and fantail. As you can see in the image- the price is observable above fantail. The 15 minutes and 5 minute stoichastic will be sreaming buy crossover/oversold. I use a price projection oscillator because it appears to signal a little bit earlier over oscillators. As it is possible to get, this is about as great as a trade! I am interested to use with overlay stoichastic. Which sort of overlay stoichastic settings on a minutes,30minutes hr timeframes. Is there some general guideline, such as the interval, or would you just eyeball it?
Thank you again!
RIP

Sorry but another posting question. It will not accept a complete size screenshot. While each picture is captured by me - till its dimensions will be accepted by the froum, it is not going to accept it till I make it little and minimze the width and length of pic! Is there any other way to post a screenshot that is bigger. Ty

Hello Rip,

Firstly Posting Images.
The Maximum size for an Image is 600 pixels x 600 pixels so when you resize your picture, Maintain Aspect and decrease to 600 pixels wide. If you merely add 1 attachment, then the image should be posted by you to your post.

Overlayed Stohs.
The shortest interval Chart I use them is a 30 min Chart.
I like to overlay using a multiple of this Chart Time frame.
ie. 30 x two or 30 x 4 etc..
So 30 Min Stoh overlayed using 1 Hour or 2 Hour stohs.

I prefer to find out when I could ch a 6 - 10 bar move in order that relates to a 3 -5 hour trade. However, I don't hold it. Move Stop to BE asap and place Limit at Pivot.

BEMAC-After looking over countless charts with the Overlayed Stoichastic I'm never likely to have the ability to return to the timeframe stoichastic. The simple rule of thumb of x 2 or x 4 fits, each chart will naturally point to the ideal multi etc.. Those huge breakouts always appear to occur when the two stoichastics are signal crossovers.
I'm happy the indior(stoichastic) that you decided to create multi-timeframe is the exact same indior I always use. That prevents me from requesting your services for indior request!

Bramhall- It seems like you been reading the same books that I've the last few months or what? . Ahead of Boris, I browse Cater's Mastering the Trade, I've begun his bollinger squeeze setups but I dont ever use the momentum indior.

After reading your post I'm nervous that the bollinger squeeze indior I'm using is prohibited. I only hope that John Bollinger doesn't need that everyone give his bollinger bands back! After I think about it- I think he had been the first to say the bollinger squeeze in his book.

Good Luck,

Rippy

- I have some questions regarding the indior. I started searching for material that pertained I could find was in some Darryl Guppy newsletters. From the newsletters he makes some comparisions between his Guppy Multiple Moving Averages (shorterm 3,5,8,10,12,15 and longterm 30,35,40,45,50) and a indior that he calls the rainbow. The indior at first glance resembles the fantail. I'm assuming that you are familar with Guppy's indiors as they are so much like the fantail and you also posted some of the indiors.

He creates a claim the rainbow indior isn't quite as reliable as his Guppy indior. He goes on about how it lags and it doesn't react fast enough. Because it utilizes variable ma's correct But you can't make the same claim concerning the fantail? Guppy into fantail's comparision isn't valid because of the gap in the usage of varying ma's.

So if anyone reads those articles and clumps the fantail indior with all the rainbow indior- they are creating a technical error. The fantail will react quicker during consolidation (adx falling) and tighten up throughout a fashion (adx climbing ).

My second issue is to do with all the ADX section of the fantail. I'm assuming that the variable, or even the multiple, is the true adx result?

If it's below 20-25 price is non-trending- above 25 and rising trend beginning. So every time a trend grows, the ADX climbs making the variable ma's more, therefore they stiffen up to show the tendency more consistent.

I just want to make sure I am thinking correctly while comparing the two indiors.

Thanks for all of your hardwork!

Rippy